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This pitching swap plays to Yeskie strength
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:24 am
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:24 am
Yeskie is not good with projects.
He is good turning good into great.
That Blinn kid is a project. Someone may make him good, but it would not be Yeskie.
The USC kid can be great. Yeskie will go wonderful with him
He is good turning good into great.
That Blinn kid is a project. Someone may make him good, but it would not be Yeskie.
The USC kid can be great. Yeskie will go wonderful with him
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:26 am to LSUFanHouston
I think we can all agree after this season Yeskie's strength is not finding control for pitchers who lack it
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:38 am to LSUFanHouston
The college format in general doesn't lend itself to helping guys with control problems.
JUCO and summer leagues are the best places to deal with that within the college system.
The time constraints and the conflicting incentives (pure development vs winning) make anyone, not just Yeskie, taking on too many "projects" a fools errand.
You can take on a couple if you evaluate well and identify immediate fixes. Mayers improved to a decent degree with that. But when there are too many guys to fix the already short amount of time to work with gets even shorter.
JUCO and summer leagues are the best places to deal with that within the college system.
The time constraints and the conflicting incentives (pure development vs winning) make anyone, not just Yeskie, taking on too many "projects" a fools errand.
You can take on a couple if you evaluate well and identify immediate fixes. Mayers improved to a decent degree with that. But when there are too many guys to fix the already short amount of time to work with gets even shorter.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:55 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:
Yeskie is not good with projects.
He is good turning good into great.
That Blinn kid is a project. Someone may make him good, but it would not be Yeskie.
The USC kid can be great. Yeskie will go wonderful with him
Care to elaborate on Why Yeskie excels at "good into great", but is "not good with projects"?
Care to elaborate on how you reached this assessment?
I'll be frank, this sounds like you are making a general assessment about things that you don't understand. Sounds great on the surface and has absolutely no substance.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:00 am to ProjectP2294
There’s fixing and there’s making things worse. Yeskie thought he had guys who could open up every AB with swing and miss and then finish the AB with swing and miss. When good batters weren’t getting fooled, there was no backup plan. It was an odd reversal of throwing to contact vs develop dynamic pitches. Kids used to grow up learning how to throw strikes then pick up velocity. Then it became throw it harder and we can figure out the zone later. Now they’re being taught how to spin it more and throw it harder. Forget location. I know that benefits some but it can’t be the only approach which is what we had.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:02 am to Bacon84
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Care to elaborate on Why Yeskie excels at "good into great", but is "not good with projects"?
The two other responses in this thread seem to do that.
Look at his development record. He helps pitchers find additional speed and additional pitches.
He’s not good at fixing control problems.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:19 am to LSUFanHouston
Don't you know that TD is full of the best pitching coaches in the world. You should see how their Braxton pitches.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:37 am to LSUFanHouston
One day you dorks will understand that you can’t just throw out cliches and expect people to believe you know what you’re talking about
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:43 am to ell_13
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There’s fixing and there’s making things worse. Yeskie thought he had guys who could open up every AB with swing and miss and then finish the AB with swing and miss. When good batters weren’t getting fooled, there was no backup plan. It was an odd reversal of throwing to contact vs develop dynamic pitches. Kids used to grow up learning how to throw strikes then pick up velocity. Then it became throw it harder and we can figure out the zone later. Now they’re being taught how to spin it more and throw it harder. Forget location. I know that benefits some but it can’t be the only approach which is what we had.
It's definitely only cool now to be able to hit triple digits on the gun than the ability to actually hit the zone with your repertoire. No idea why that changed, but "pitching" has been way too focused on throwing hard more than anything the last decade.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:24 pm to thunderbird1100
Throwing hard has always been there. It became almost a sole focus about 15 years ago about the same time hitters started only trying for HRs and catchers dropped to a knee for every pitch. But recently with the growth of trackman data, spin rates and vertical depth have almost replaced velocity as the IT thing for young pitchers.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:25 pm to thunderbird1100
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but "pitching" has been way too focused on throwing hard more than anything the last decade.
Because the best pitchers at every level throw hard. It’s not rocket science
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:26 pm to LSUFanHouston
Yeskie strengths are managing developed pitchers.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
The two other responses in this thread seem to do that. Look at his development record. He helps pitchers find additional speed and additional pitches. He’s not good at fixing control problems.
No they don’t.
Nothing you said, has told me how you reached this conclusion, or more specifically, what he is doing that makes him good/bad at the things you claim he is good/bad at….
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:33 pm to LSUFanHouston
The one thing that hasnt changed in any sport is its never the jockey, its always the horse. College athletics isnt a discovery phase. You either have it or you dont when you get to campus, all a coach can do is "refine" what a player already has. End of story.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:40 pm to Kool Kaliper
quote:what coach doesnt ? You saying Yeskie cant develop pitchers in college? Again, the pitcher will either have it or dont have it coming in.
Yeskie strengths are managing developed pitchers
Cam Johnson came to LSU with severe control problems. Ok then he goes to Oklahoma, everyone knows where they are right now and Cam "still" has those same control problems. Are you saying Oklahoma pitching coach sucks too? I think not.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:43 pm to sharkfhin
quote:Correct. Every kid who arrives on campus is already a finished product.
You either have it or you dont when you get to campus, all a coach can do is "refine" what a player already has.
As we all know, no kids can improve their physical and mental ability from the age of 18 to 22. That would be outrageous.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:48 pm to PP7 for heisman
Made up narratives dont get you anywhere. What a stupid take and not what the op is refering to. I must of not said a good coach can "refine" what he already has but of course your to stupid to know what that all entails. Smdh
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:09 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Yeskie is not good with projects.
Oh bullshite. Projects are projects because they have a lot of work to do. Yeskie can only do so much. At some point it's on the player to execute. Not all projects work out.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:09 pm to LSUFanHouston
he isn't good at anything. and I doubt LSU will ever be good again until he replaced by much better
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:09 pm to sharkfhin
quote:No I'm not talking about the OP, I was responding to you who said "a kid has it or doesn't."
What a stupid take and not what the op is refering to.
quote:Ah yes I'm the stupid one.
must of not said a good coach can "refine" what he already has but of course your to stupid to know what that all entails.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 2:10 pm
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