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re: This Arkansas spread has me worried. It is not moving like it should

Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:51 am to
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
82506 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:51 am to
WGAF? are you a square or a sharp?

bet the mfing ML if you are that worried.
Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2042 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:59 am to
anyone thats watch CFB for more than a few years should be worried.

classic shiny hook.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
19465 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:00 am to
The spread has no bearing on how the game is played. It is set to try and make money for Vegas.

If we play like we have been we win easily

If Bama beats Ole Piss we win the west

I wonder if we and Ole Piss end up tied for the West, if Ole Piss will put up another Co West SEC Championship banner
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32209 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:03 am to
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Explain how the spread not being favorable for LSU affects our players’ ability to win the game


It doesn't. But the OP is perpetually in a state of concern about something...no matter how irrational.

Arkansas opened as a strong favorite last week. The line moved further in their favor by kickoff. I guess someone forgot to tell Liberty them becoming a larger underdog throughout the week was an ominous sign
Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2042 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:05 am to
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And the Ole Miss spread was what -1.5? Spreads don't determine our outcomes.



Great comparison of this scenario. An unranked team (at home) vs top 10 team...no reason for that unranked team to be favored or even predicted to be close. When a spread doesn't make sense, there is a reason ...and it's not 'easy money'.

OBVIOUSLY, the line has zero to do w preparation, but LV sees something (matchup, weather, letdown, etc) that favors Ark.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 8:06 am
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14026 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:08 am to
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The spread moves during the week to ensure even money on both sides. The only thing Vegas/bookies want is to make money on the 10% juice from the losers.


This not categorical. This is a huge misconception. The scenario you are describing would actually result in Vegas never getting paid. If they have equal money on both sides and it hits on the number they do not get paid. There are plenty of times when the action is one sided and Vegas does not move the line. Their goal is to maximize value, not to guarantee equal action on both sides.

Movement of a line also depends largely on the number. For example, is much easier to move a line from 5-6.5 than it is to move a line off 3, i.e., it takes way more action.
Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2042 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:10 am to
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Vegas never getting paid. If they have equal money on both sides and it hits on the number they do not get paid.



Not true, there are fees (juice) with every bet.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68362 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:11 am to
Division game early kickoff on the road coming off Bama. It has all the markings of a closer-ish game.

ETA: add cold weather
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 8:25 am
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1317 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:13 am to
The spread and it’s movement is based on how the money is flowing in the betting circles, not on the expected winner or better team !
Posted by NorthLouisianaLSUFan
North Louisiana
Member since May 2016
87 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:10 am to
This year’s team is prepared mentally and physically different. I believe LSU will win by 14 or more. The team has proven Vegas wrong many times. I believe in the BK Method.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19077 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:13 am to
I'm not a degenerate gambler, but you only have to look back to last week and the Georgia line versus Tennessee. It was enticing money to be bet on Tennessee. And it didn't really move. And then late Friday night and early Saturday morning the sharp money started rolling in on Georgia.

Who knows why lines are set the way they are in certain games.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:16 am to
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And the Ole Miss spread was what -1.5? Spreads don't determine our outcomes.


Vegas hasn’t been able to figure out this LSU team all year.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
3684 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:23 am to
I expect Kelly to have the team focused on one play at a time, every play, til the end of the game.

LSU has storyline as old as time of being an underdog, beating a highly ranked team, then losing to a team they shouldn’t have lost to the next game.

I don’t think Brian Kelly will have this team fall like that though. They’ll be ready.
Posted by EdOrgeronsChin
Member since Sep 2020
261 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:24 am to
Here's a hot take... The spread does not dictate the outcome of the game lol. The expectation is that LSU is a young inexperienced club, with a lack of success over the last couple years. Beat Bama and now we will have a big fall off, especially with Arkansas losing to Liberty. It's not surprising at all that we aren't heavily favored.

If Kelly keeps them focused on the the end goal of championships, they will be fine. Take the over.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
31284 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:28 am to
An SEC home underdog coming off a loss to a team they shouldn't have lost to and an SEC road favorite coming off one of the most emotional wins in the program's recent history.

On paper, Arkansas will be motivated and focused as not to be embarrassed at home and LSU (on paper) would be emotionally hung over and overconfident.

I'm biased, but if this was any other team, I'd take Arkansas and the points in a heartbeat.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26654 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:44 am to
LSU is going to win this game by exactly 3 points. Watch
Posted by bloupe2
Member since Apr 2011
2857 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:45 am to
Agree, this line makes me extremely worried
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
39511 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:47 am to
Probably start out extremely slow, may even be trailing at half and then end up
winning by 10+.
Posted by Bellfyre
Member since Jul 2014
176 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:48 am to
Typical trap game spread. Odds makers/computer models don’t take the intangibles this specific team has into account. Heart, hustle, grit, etc.
Posted by Bushido
Member since Oct 2022
293 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 6:00 pm to
At least it's not in War Memorial Stadium... place gave me the creeps
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