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There’s no negative to not starting Skenes

Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:22 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11792 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:22 pm
We aren’t losing if Skenes pitches 5+ innings tomorrow. Doesn’t matter when he pitches those 5+ innings. It’s possible we can win tomorrow without Skenes also. It’s also possible that he can come in and pitch if need be tomorrow, without the game being out of hand.

1) start Skenes and win, you don’t have him to start a game against Florida

2) don’t start Skenes and get in a jam, bring him in and we win, but don’t have him starting a game against Florida. Bases loaded in the 2nd inning? Ok, bring him in and have him shut that down and shut them down the rest of the game. But you don’t get him against Florida.

3) don’t start Skenes, don’t need him, win, he’s ready for game 1 against Florida
Posted by lsufan0582
Boot Baby
Member since Jan 2022
1887 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:24 pm to
To win a title, you must make it to the series.
Skenes tomorrow.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11792 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

To win a title, you must make it to the series. Skenes tomorrow.


This is very possible if Skenes doesn’t start tomorrow

Let it play out and see what happens.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:28 pm
Posted by brad8504
Member since Jul 2004
11614 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:27 pm to
You’re overthinking everything.

Floyd and Hurd showed how capable they are against a better team than Florida.

Florida has skirted by in this tournament and this bullpen has shown up.

You can’t win with Skenes alone, but getting there… You can’t win it if you’re not there. And Skenes can help make that happen.
Posted by brad8504
Member since Jul 2004
11614 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

This is very possible if Skenes doesn’t start tomorrow


Possible and probable are two different things, and you are dumb.
Posted by IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Member since Aug 2018
1653 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:29 pm to
You'll get crushed but your logic is sound. Bring him in if ever needed but if by some chance you don't need him you have him ready to go 9 against Florida in game 1
Posted by GoldenAge
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1523 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:29 pm to
Best outcome possible:
LSU bats get hot, we score 10+ by end of 4th - pull Skenes and hope he can be rested for championship series.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11792 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

You’re overthinking everything.


I think everyone else is overthinking it.

quote:

And Skenes can help make that happen.


Sure. And we might need him to. But we might not. You can determine that tomorrow by letting someone else start.

Skenes will be Skenes whether he starts or plays innings 3-9.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11792 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

Possible and probable are two different things, and you are dumb.


Ok. So let it play out first and see where you stand after 1, after 2, after 3, after 4…..
Posted by Northshore_LSU
Member since Jun 2018
879 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:31 pm to
This is an elimination game in Omaha to get to the CWS finals. You don’t hold anybody for future games at this point. You run your best out there to keep your season alive and have a chance to play for a championship. Skenes will and should start tomorrow.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27061 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:31 pm to
Wake is better than Florida. Beat Wake with Skenes. Deal with Florida after.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11792 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

Best outcome possible: LSU bats get hot, we score 10+ by end of 4th - pull Skenes and hope he can be rested for championship series.


Great point. What if the bats get hot and Skenes isn’t starting? Then you know he is rested for game 1.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60263 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:32 pm to
I think the wind dictates a lot tomorrow. If it’s blowing in like it has been, all you need is someone to throw strikes. We saw a 112 exit today come up 40 feet short of the wall.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32879 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:32 pm to
You can’t go down multiple runs against their ace.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11792 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

This is an elimination game in Omaha to get to the CWS finals. You don’t hold anybody for future games at this point. You run your best out there to keep your season alive and have a chance to play for a championship. Skenes will and should start tomorrow.


You’re not “holding him back”

If things go to shite in the first inning, yea play him. I’m not saying he shouldn’t play at all tomorrow. He just doesn’t need to start.
Posted by scorb
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1152 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:34 pm to
If it's Skenes tomorrow, it needs to be as a starter. A starting pitcher warming up is different than a reliever. Skenes isn't someone in my opinion that should throw a few warmup pitches & come in as a relief pitcher as needed. Especially on short rest.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11792 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

You can’t go down multiple runs against their ace.


You can avoid this. If there’s a man on first and second with no outs in the first inning, bring Skenes in. You control when he plays.
Posted by brad8504
Member since Jul 2004
11614 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

I think everyone else is overthinking it.


Okay.

quote:

Sure. And we might need him to. But we might not. You can determine that tomorrow by letting someone else start. Skenes will be Skenes whether he starts or plays innings 3-9.


This is stupid logic. The dude wants the ball and there’s all the confidence in the world behind the guys in the pen and Floyd/Hurd.

If he doesn’t start, who starts? And when it implodes, what are you going to say? If it’s 5-0 through 4 innings and you bring him in, but the bats can’t do shite against Lowder, then what?

Start Skenes. Get to the weekend. Worry about it when you get there.

And right now, I wouldn’t be worried.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11792 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

If it's Skenes tomorrow, it needs to be as a starter. A starting pitcher warming up is different than a reliever. Skenes isn't someone in my opinion that should throw a few warmup pitches & come in as a relief pitcher as needed. Especially on short rest.


This is kinda BS. Skenes will be Skenes whether he starts or comes in after an inning or two.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72603 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:35 pm to
yup

skenes tomm

start

FLOYD
HURD
ACK

in title series

we just won back to back games in the losers bracket johnny wholestaff ing it.

ack and herring were great plus coop.

you dont roll the dice again. our staff was not expected to pull these last 2 wins out.

let skenes roll tomm.

we can beat UF with the guys above
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