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re: There’s no negative to not starting Skenes

Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:45 pm to
LSU is not going to avoid using Skenes immediately starting tomorrow. The worst thing you can do is put someone like Little on the mound and let WF have a 9 run inning and then let Skenes dominate the rest of the game. That would be absolutely stupid. You put him on the mound immediately and give our bats a chance to get ahead.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

If you start someone else and it goes to shite quick, ok bring him in before damage is done



But things just went to crap. Now you’re playing catch up.


Don’t take the chance.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12018 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

No, it’s fricking dumb. If you’re gonna bring him in with 2 on and no outs in the first, just fricking start him and avoid the situation entirely, establish dominance, and carry on.


Ok. Here’s how I know you can’t think logically. You’re ignoring the possibility of not needing him tomorrow.

Everyone is already assuming the only way we win tomorrow is with Skenes starting.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:46 pm
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4693 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

This is what people are missing. If you start someone else and it goes to shite quick, ok bring him in before damage is done and have him shut them down.


What you are missing is that Skenes can’t be ready in 30 seconds. Things can get out of hand before he gets in there. Then everyone is fighting to come from behind and the damage may very well be more than a run to two. All of this and we’ve fricked up his game day routine.

No. No. No.
Posted by brad8504
Member since Jul 2004
11614 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

TackySweater


Keep your day job.

/EndStupidThread
Posted by BordyLSU
Austin Texas Baby
Member since Dec 2006
1314 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:47 pm to
There is literally no other legitimate option to start tomorrow other than Skeenes, unless you think it’s Hurd. Our dugout cheerleader is not an option and Jay isn’t trusting a guy like Dutton or Colllins to start with a trip to the finals on the line.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:47 pm to
We don't have a bullpen genius. Everyone is close to being spent or done. They already seen Hurd and got a few good swings on him. You establish dominance early and give them 0 momentum. LSU will be going against one of the best pitchers in the country tomorrow. You don't want them to get a commanding lead and kill all the momentum.

Do you really think they don't have a huge advantage if LSU puts someone like Little or Hurd on the mound against their ace?
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:48 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12018 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

But things just went to crap. Now you’re playing catch up. Don’t take the chance.


You don’t have to let them get there though.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

Did you read anything?



Yes I did.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72901 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

No, it’s fricking dumb. If you’re gonna bring him in with 2 on and no outs in the first, just fricking start him and avoid the situation entirely, establish dominance, and carry on.




THIS

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Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12018 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

What you are missing is that Skenes can’t be ready in 30 seconds. Things can get out of hand before he gets in there. Then everyone is fighting to come from behind and the damage may very well be more than a run to two. All of this and we’ve fricked up his game day routine.


Regular routines and schedules have long been out the window in the post season. Skenes will not be phased by a small adjustment in his routine if he’s needed.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13298 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:49 pm to
Friend,

quote:

There’s no negative to not starting Skenes


This title might be the most compact double double negative sentence in English history. Plus it has a split infinitive. I’m still trying to decipher its meaning.

Yours,
TulaneLSU

Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72901 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

You don’t have to let them get there though.



In your own words you said if things went bad. No one is “letting” things go bad.


If you don’t start him and things go bad, that’s just how it goes. To avoid that, you start him. You don’t bring him in to “fix” anything. That’s why you start him.


If LSU can save Hurd and not use him tomorrow, it sets up nicely for Floyd/Hurd on Saturday.


Figure the rest out after tomorrow.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:55 pm
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12498 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:50 pm to
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You can avoid this. If there’s a man on first and second with no outs in the first inning, bring Skenes in.

You know he's not actually magical, right? He's the best pitcher in college baseball, but even the best pitcher is liable to give up a run or two in bad situations. Waiting to get into a bad situation before putting him in isn't a guarantee that we will get out of it clean. And 1 or 2 runs could very easily be the difference in a game against their ace.

Not starting Skenes is 100% risking tomorrow's game in the hopes of getting him for the Championships Series. That is precisely what "saving him" means. And whether it's a smart bet or a dumb bet, it's definitely a gamble.

Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:51 pm to
It really is a stupid thread. Let's hope he never is in charge of managing a team anywhere.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12018 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

If you’re gonna bring him in with 2 on and no outs in the first, just fricking start him and avoid the situation entirely, establish dominance, and carry on.


You don’t need to “establish dominance”

Just need to win. We didn’t establish dominance tonight until our bats did. That could happen tomorrow. Them you establish dominance against Florida in game 1
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12498 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:52 pm to
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Here’s how I know you can’t think logically.


You're insisting that putting Skenes in with 2 on and no outs presents zero risk of costing us a run, and you're telling other people they "can't think logically"?

Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72901 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

TackySweater


Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12018 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

That is precisely what "saving him" means.


Not starting him isn’t saving him. I never once said he shouldn’t play tomorrow.
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