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re: The Truth About Scott Woodward
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:08 am to Theodore Links Watch
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:08 am to Theodore Links Watch
Jay Johnson found Scott Woodward, and Kim wanted to come home. Pretty simple situations
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:12 am to Hale Lipari
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... I am not saying that his departure was justified -
fair enough... not really even responding to you specifically but rather the general attitude by many that wanted him gone... much of which is based on incorrect info (such as attributing Fisher's buy out to Woodward)
His departure was probably baked into the cake given a new president is (by some info) less than a week away.
However, I have read in recently as today that Woodward did not notify the Board of either Kelly's hire or that he was going to fire him... I true, that certainly was certainly a short sited move on Woodward's part...
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:13 am to andouille
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Sadly, it's likely too late. Think of a young Saban at Mich St, there is this enticing job at a school with a lot of great recruits available. But the downside is that his job is at the whim of a silly little politician. Major Pass.
You are so wrong and so misguided.
When Saban was hired here, LSU was a bigger cluster than it is now.
Mark Emmert was just hired as Chancellor. He nuetered Joe Dean, the current AD at the time. We had fired Gerry DiNardo prior to the season’s end and the whole football program was in shambles.
Saban saw what a gem this job truly was and despite all the noise and dysfunction, he knew what LSU could do for his career. The rest is history.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:18 am to klrstix
fair enough - I appreciate your response - for what it's worth, my source is about as close to the horse's mouth as you can get
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:34 am to mdomingue
quote:No, just have business sense. Any administrator or manager that hires someone for 10 years with a 90% salary guarantee will be held responsible if that hire mails it in.
So, is he supposed to be clairvoyant, telepathic, or both? What a silly take.
You set up the incentive you better know what drives that person - that is your job when you have the responsibility and authority to hand out million dollar contracts.
And if it doesn't work out the way you thought or planned then there are consequences.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:44 am to Theodore Links Watch
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The truth about Woodward is he succeeded in some areas but failed in others. He found Jay Johnson, but only after the BOS rejected his pursuit of O'Sullivan for off field issues. He hired Kim Mulkey, but her situation at Baylor was stale. She also wanted to be closer to her family here. I think a baseline competent AD could have accomplished that hire Jay Clark was right in his lap for the gym team. He botched the Will Wade situation. I know people will reply to this saying he only fired Wade to save football, but there is no evidence that the NCAA was going to punish both sports. Heck, the NCAA didn't even really ban Wade from basketball like everyone thought. And Matt McMahon certainly isn't the answer post-Wade. And finally, the crown jewel. The hire that every AD is judged upon: the football coach. He financially tied LSU to one of the worst contracts in the history of the school, and he went down with that ship. That's part of the job. Could this have all been handled better by the governor and the board? Yes. But the most important point is the one everyone seems to be missing. LSU was successful before Scott Woodward, and LSU will be successful after Scott Woodward. You can appreciate what Woodward accomplished here, but pretending that his success doesn't come with context or that he's some sort of transcendent administrator because he can raise money for the most popular school in the state is overwrought.
THIS
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:48 am to geauxjuice
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but i think woodward got a raw deal. how was he to know kelly wouldnt even try
I’m no AD and not very smart and I knew the hire was crap when it was announced!
You don’t coach D1 for 30+ years and all of a sudden figure out how to win the big one! Some guys just can’t do it and it’s been clear for over a decade that Kelly can win the big game(s)!
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:48 am to LSUnKaty
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Any administrator or manager that hires someone for 10 years with a 90% salary guarantee will be held responsible if that hire mails it in.
Context is important here. In that cycle, two coaches were poached from a top 10 program.
One was the active winningest coach in college football. That was BK. He got a 10-year, 95 million dollar contract with a buyout of 90% of the remaining salary, so around 53 million when he was fired. It would have been around 60 million after last season.
The other was Lincoln Riley, who got a 10-year, 110 million dollar contract. Riley's buyout coming into this season was 80 million dollars.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:49 am to andouille
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You are missing the point, damn near everyone on TD is missing the point. Once a politician gets involved in the athletic department, it's over. No decent people will get near LSU now.
You do know that Scott is/was basically just a politician in the AD office right?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:50 am to dru5
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and what that portends for the future of LSU.
Nice word!
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:22 am to Theodore Links Watch
Scott has been mentioned by many here to be a great fund raiser. The only fund raiser at LSU is a championship football team. Mark Emmert publicly acknowledged this when he was Chancellor. He was trying to raise funds selling benefactors on bringing Noble Prize winning physycists and Pulitzer Prize winning authors to LSU. Not long into those conversations those benefactors wanted to know if he was aware of our quarterback play and play calling, or that we should be in a 3-4 defensive front and not a 4-3. 
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:00 pm to Tammany Tom
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You are so wrong and so misguided.
I hope I am, but I already see candidates turning up their noses. There are silver linings, Carville says he is burning His LSU diploma and gear, so he won't be embarrassing us any longer.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:07 pm to Theodore Links Watch
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He botched the Will Wade situation. I know people will reply to this saying he only fired Wade to save football, but there is no evidence that the NCAA was going to punish both sports.
LSU basketball got punished by the NCAA and Wade got a 2 year show cause.
he would have been fired for that at just about any school in the country.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:13 pm to mdomingue
With Lincoln and Kelly both having the same agent. Impressive work by Armstrong.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:18 pm to kobsa
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Impressive work by Armstrong.
Indeed.
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:25 pm to geauxjuice
Woody wrecked 2 highest revenue sports- that can not happen at LSU- Botched firing of Wade- Not vetting BK- former ND& LSU players hated him- thats not who we want at LSU -Karma caught up with Woody - he went out just like wade
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