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re: The true direction of the program will unfold over the next 4 weeks.

Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:39 am to
Posted by nwallb9
Member since Oct 2024
313 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:39 am to
Lose the next three games…boy that’d be a tough pill to swallow. I know we keep saying BK is not fireable but that would be such a toxic situation. There’d be no excitement at all going into next season.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44877 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:42 am to
It’s starting now 6 games in? There’s only 6 games left. It’s started. It’s messy.
Posted by lsutiger251
Member since Oct 2022
287 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:51 am to
His pregame speeches seem bland. Les Miles and Coach O had the team ready to take someone's head off on kickoff.
Posted by geauxdroddz
Member since Nov 2016
2115 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:58 am to
come on people, the truth is right in front of your face.

3-4 loss team.
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9527 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:00 pm to
Yes.
Lose three - not surprised
Win all three - fluke.
Even a shitty employee occasionally gets a job done.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1686 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:07 pm to
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There was a "commitment" by Les to fix the issues ahead of the 2016 season with a loaded roster ranked #5 to start. He then lost 2 games before the end of Sept due to the same problems that had long been present and the donors terminated him.
I'm pretty sure that Les was burned toast halfway through the second quarter of the Wisconsin game. Big promises about changing the offense, then opens the season with the same ole death by toss-dive.

They were probably working on the termination letter before LSU got on the plane to head home from Green Bay.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32896 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:07 pm to
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Ark will NOT be an easy game. It rarely is and with Petrino in charge now, they are playing harder with guys trying to get portal film out there. If they didn't turn the ball over in the 2nd half last Saturday, they probably win that game at Tenn. Their D is awful but that is arguably one of the top 2 offenses in the conference.


UT’s defense is terrible this year. Taylen Green folds every time he faces a good or better defense. He had a terrible game against us last year.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32896 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:17 pm to
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He's already blown one great opportunity for a championship run in 2023 by not being able to make the necessary mid-season adjustments to make the defense at least average to complement the elite offense.


You’ve lost your damn mind. They scrapped House’s entire scheme after the Ole Miss debacle. They scaled it back even further once we had to start all freshmen CBs for the last 4-5 games.

A scheme change didn’t matter in 23 because we didn’t have the talent or experience to be better. In fact, most of the talent was very inexperienced, which just made things worse. The portal class was mostly a bust and two of our best players went down for the last 1/3 of the season. It was a total fricking mess.

The offense has plenty of talent and experience, overall. Lack of creativity, the lack of progress by the OL and various injuries have caused problems, but there’s no comparison of the potential levels of this offense vs the 23 defense if the right adjustments are made, some key players like Nuss and Durham get their shite together and Anderson, Green, and Moore get healthy.
Posted by TigerGrad03
Member since Dec 2024
947 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 12:49 pm to
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The true direction of the program will unfold over the next 4 weeks.


No it won't. The direction of the program isn't dictated by a handful of games in one season.


This forum acts like we knew from day 1 that 2003, 2007, and 2019 were going to win it all and we didn't stress after a loss or a close game. All those seasons had similar issues to what we are having now. Just enjoy the ride and stop acting like everything hinges on every game or play.
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
295 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 1:37 pm to
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No it won't. The direction of the program isn't dictated by a handful of games in one season.


What are you talking about? It definitely does. Especially this year. Look at what happened to Penn State. I'm not saying that Kelly is going to get fired after this year at all, but look at the outlook of that program just 15 days ago compared to what it is now.

This was supposed to be the year that we were all in and the stars were supposed to align. We shelled out $18M to get guys in the portal.

This team has the talent and potential to win all of their remaining games. They could also just as easily drop 4 of their next 6 end the season. You think boosters are going to be as willing to cut checks for NIL if that's what happens? Or do you think their question will be "If you can't get it done this year, are you ever going to be able to?"

Do you have any faith in Kelly moving forward if they don't make the playoffs this year? Or are you fine with playing in the Cheez It Bowl every year?

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This forum acts like we knew from day 1 that 2003, 2007, and 2019 were going to win it all and we didn't stress after a loss or a close game. All those seasons had similar issues to what we are having now. Just enjoy the ride and stop acting like everything hinges on every game or play.


You are comparing apples and oranges. Every year is different, and this season is nothing like any of those. We weren't slogging through one side of the ball in any of those seasons.

In 2003, nobody had championship expectations. Defense was generational, and our offense wasn't pedestrian like it is now.

In 2007, we saw them demolish Miss. State and Virginia Tech to open the season on both sides of the ball. We had faith that we could get it done on either side.

We ultimately didn't have anything to bitch about in 2019 because we won all our games.

I'm sure plenty of people bitched and moaned back then as they do every season, but that's literally what being a fan is all about. I can still enjoy every second of football, and still complain. If you don't like it when fans do that, then you are on the wrong board.
Posted by TigerGrad03
Member since Dec 2024
947 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:26 pm to
Complain all you want, but not every game indicates the trajectory of the program.

Penn St’s situation is irrelevant. There was coach fatigue by the AD after he’d been there 10+ years. I could easily say look at the Ryan Day situation last year. After the Michigan loss, all the dorks in their fanbase gave up. Then they move on to the next game and get on a roll and win it all.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34053 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:28 pm to
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You’ve lost your damn mind. They scrapped House’s entire scheme after the Ole Miss debacle. They scaled it back even further once we had to start all freshmen CBs for the last 4-5 games.

A scheme change didn’t matter in 23 because we didn’t have the talent or experience to be better. In fact, most of the talent was very inexperienced, which just made things worse. The portal class was mostly a bust and two of our best players went down for the last 1/3 of the season. It was a total fricking mess.


Yet, you didn't see much of an emphasis to try to create pressure in the backfield. They "simplified" and tried to make it easier for the DB/LBs to "keep everything in front of them". The only problem is they couldn't. Even playing soft coverage they couldn't stop the opponent for moving at will. It's why LSU was something like 120 in 3rd down conversion %. So why not try a different course of action and sell out a bit more to try to create pressure? What's the worst that would happen? The opponent would beat it and hit a big play? So what! They were already doing that!

Go back to 2021. For the first 8 games LSU was giving up ~450 yards per game to anyone with a pulse. Then, in game 9 vs. Alabama they changed their approach. They started to blitz more heavily up the middle and sell out more. Guess what? It worked! LSU went from giving up 450 per game to less than 300. The amount of 1st downs opponents were getting dropped significantly. Did it stop all of the bleeding? Of course not. But it gave LSU a chance defensively.

Posted by Cd104
Member since Aug 2018
2008 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:32 pm to
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He's already blown one great opportunity for a championship run in 2023 by not being able to make the necessary mid-season adjustments to make the defense at least average to complement the elite offense


In college football if you don’t have the dudes esp on in the sec you will get torched theirs not level or elite coaches to cover for that. Kelly whiffed on the hiring steeples as cb coach and Matt house as dc. The talent cup was bars that was the least talented backend since the lsu teams of the 90’s it was that bad.As elite as the offense was that defense was not winning a natty it’s ok to say we didn’t have the players that year. Read the camp stories of the defense that year their were multiple days the db room didnt win a single rep agaisnt the lsu offense,
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 2:33 pm
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
5772 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:35 pm to
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it's going to be disappointing if Baker seems unprepared again for the running element of the quarterback
we bottled up klubnik and sellers
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3125 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:35 pm to
uh we were not even a top 50 program before kelly got here. WTF are you talking about?
Posted by mjax57
Vinings, GA
Member since Mar 2012
4767 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:44 pm to
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We've moved from a top 5 program to a top15 program in 5 years.


18 out of the last 24 seasons have ended with 3 or more losses… some of you guys think we have had tons of 1-2 loss seasons.
This post was edited on 10/16/25 at 2:45 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168631 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:45 pm to
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uh we were not even a top 50 program before kelly got here. WTF are you talking about?


Getting the “dumb take express” warmed up for basketball season eh
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
295 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 2:58 pm to
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Complain all you want, but not every game indicates the trajectory of the program.


It's not a single game. It's a third of a season.

You're right in some sense but look at what happened to Florida after the shoe throw game in 2020. Look at what happened to Miles after the championship loss to Bama. Certain games and stretches of games in a season can totally change an entire dynamic of a program. It happens all the time.

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Penn St’s situation is irrelevant. There was coach fatigue by the AD after he’d been there 10+ years. I could easily say look at the Ryan Day situation last year. After the Michigan loss, all the dorks in their fanbase gave up. Then they move on to the next game and get on a roll and win it all.


Case in point. Not sure how it's irrelevant considering they were riding high ranked No. 3 in the country and were a 4th-down stop away from beating Oregon a couple of weeks ago. Now, they are looking for a new coach.

They were literally a play away from playing in the National Championship last year. I understand the coach fatigue, but I think many people are starting to feel that here if they don't see results.

Again, I don't think Kelly is going anywhere after this season. But similar to Penn State and Franklin: If not now, when??
Posted by NorthstarinLA
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
2532 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 3:04 pm to
Or Better yet, tell the world he truly doesn’t know how to lead and prepare a team yet still steals $10M a year win or lose!
He has made this program physically soft on Offense, these guys can’t physically beat anybody 1:1! That’s PATHETIC!
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
295 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 3:30 pm to
Defense played well in those games I'll give you that for sure. I'll also be a douche and say that Sellers was also down 3 linemen and they are the worst in the conference in running the football.

Everyone has kind of bottled up Klubnik looking at his rushing statistics with the exception of GaTech.

I thought they had a poor game plan for Chambliss against Ole Miss, which makes me worried for these next few games.
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