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re: The simple fix to the College Football Playoffs

Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Commodore 64
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:44 pm to
Bring back the BCS for seeding purposes.

Top 16 teams battle it out.

Problem solved.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5321 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:49 pm to
I like your effort, but the university presidents and conference commissioners, who hold all the weight want conference championship games and those games to have meaning and a reward for winning them. In your scenario there is no benefit or reward for winning a conference championship.

The obvious choice for everyone is an 8 game playoff, but that isn’t happening.

It’s going to be 12 or 16 moving forward whether we like it or not. There are going to be major mis-matches whether we like it or not.
Posted by Bulldog55
Member since Nov 2023
296 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:52 pm to
I would like 16 teams. No one gets a bye. I think the 4 teams that got a bye would like to have a home game and it would be an extra payday for the school.
Posted by Bayou Warrior 64
Member since Feb 2021
729 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:52 pm to
I like your proposal. However, I am NOT a fan of byes. I think all teams should pay in the first round. The top tier teams are rewarded with a weaker opponent not time spent idly. Happy New Year! Geaux Tigers!
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3250 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Each year there’s 2-4 teams capable of winning a natty. We’ll never have a situation where 12 teams are competitive. Even with 8 teams, that’s too many, but would work better than 12. Going to 16 would be even worse for blowout scores. However, too much money is being made with having 12 teams, so I don’t see that number getting smaller.


The CFP was implemented to give the 2-4 best teams the opportunity to play for a natty and to remove the fan doubt that "X team" would have won if they had an opportunity to play. The CFP removed people in a room deciding who should play for a natty, no team after 12 has a legit argument after a full season of games.

My only thought on a CFP change would be that the top 4 conference play the first round as their conference championship to eliminate the college season from playing until then end of January. That would allow for 4 open seed selection which should be plenty. Their would need to some qualifying matrix to determine which conferences are deemed the top 4 out of the 5 each year.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15960 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:12 pm to
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It's already being discussed for 2025.


Of course it is being discussed but there will have to be some concessions made to the Big 12 and group of 5. There is not shot they agree to reseed just because it does nothing to help to help them.
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
5305 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

simple fix to the College Football Playoffs


Go back to 4 teams. Consolidate the conferences into four 16-team conferences based somewhat on GEOGRAPHY. Conference winners Duke it out. The conf championship games then serve as de facto quarter finals.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:40 pm to
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Of course it is being discussed but there will have to be some concessions made to the Big 12 and group of 5. There is not shot they agree to reseed just because it does nothing to help to help them


Maybe try educating yourself a little. Those conferences will soon not have an equal vote. They are going to accept the terms, or they can will just be excluded all together.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:42 pm to
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Go back to 4 teams. Consolidate the conferences into four 16-team conferences based somewhat on GEOGRAPHY. Conference winners Duke it out. The conf championship games then serve as de facto quarter finals


Under your genius plan, which has exactly a 0% chance of happening, every single team that's in the final 4 would not be in the playoffs.

It's like some of you don't even bother thinking about what you are suggesting.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22701 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:16 pm to
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All 4 of the first round games sucked. All 4 of the team that got a bye lost. All teams who have been favored have won. All 4 teams remaining did not win their conference. There has only been 1 entertaining game


Then stop watching football. What actually needs to be fixed? How “good” the games are?

So dramatic. I barely tune in because I know what it is, at this point how can you not?
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
7171 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:39 pm to
I hate the playoffs at least anything that allows this many teams having a chance to win the one that matters, is bs. It has made the regular season kind of just a resume and the regular season was the playoffs and was much more important.

It won’t ever move back to anything sub 12 teams though now, so leave it the fricking same and make all the rules set in stone, give the coaches 5-10years of consistent same rules so the coaches and universities can develop the winning recipe…


At this time regular season doesn’t matter a whole lot just the fight for top 4.

Posted by ValleyTNTIGER
wherever i go that's where i am
Member since Sep 2010
969 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:46 pm to
Agreed the NCAA won’t want to reduce but 8 is enough teams.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:58 pm to
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I hate the playoffs at least anything that allows this many teams having a chance to win the one that matters, is bs


Pre BCS - The two best teams don't even play. We must fix this.

BCS - the computers shouldn't pick the two best teams. This is ridiculous. We need a playoff.

4 team playoff - so and so was the best team. I can't believe they were left out. We need a bigger playoffs.

12 team playoff - bring the BCS back and reduce the number of teams


Full circle of stupidity from probably mainly the same exact people.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24728 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:01 pm to
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Agreed the NCAA won’t want to reduce but 8 is enough teams


With an 8 team playoff you have:

For sure in:

1- Oregon
2- Clemson
3- Zona St
4 - Clemson
5 - Georgia
6 - Notre Dame

For the 7th & 8th spot

Ohio St
Penn St
Texas
Boise maybe??


3 of those are in the semis and for certain one would have been left out. And the one most likely left out (OSU) is probably going to win the entire damn thing. But sure, 8 is the answer.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 7:02 pm
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
1967 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:09 pm to
Have either 8 or 16 teams. Don't need bye
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12640 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

With an 8 team playoff you have:

For sure in:

1- Oregon
2- Clemson
3- Zona St
4 - Clemson
5 - Georgia
6 - Notre Dame

For the 7th & 8th spot

Ohio St
Penn St
Texas
Boise maybe??

I think there might be an issue here.

If you went by CFP rankings and used top 4 conference champs (instead of 5) you would have:
- Oregon
- Georgia
- Boise State
- Arizona State
- Texas
- Penn State
- Notre Dame
- Ohio State

If you kept the top 5 conference champs it would be:
- Oregon
- Georgia
- Boise State
- Arizona State
- Clemson
- Texas
- Penn State
- Notre Dame

At most you’d have one of the current semifinalists left out. I would think you’d have to go with 4 conference champs (or outright top 8) for an 8-team playoff to make sense. That said, I don’t think the prospect of Ohio State being left out should be a deal breaker just because they won a rematch against a team who beat them in the regular season either.
Posted by ORTIGER
Oregon
Member since Dec 2014
972 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:43 pm to
Put 16 teams in and play it out, no byes. Heck we put 64 plus in for bball.
Posted by WhiskeyThief
Madisonville
Member since Oct 2018
604 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 2:22 am to
Excellent solution, but when the teams with the biggest tv audiences get the snowflake schedules and the committee awards playoff spots based seemingly on win/loss records only. . .
The people running that show have exactly what they want. Let’s see if next year rolls the same way.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7380 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:09 am to
Conference champion would likely get a higher ranking but that’s it. No reason to jump over better teams in seeding.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52139 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 8:41 am to
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Under your genius plan, which has exactly a 0% chance of happening, every single team that's in the final 4 would not be in the playoffs.

How do you know ND would not have been their regional champion? And Texas might very well have been their regional champion (They would not have been in the SE regional). And Penn State might have been a NE regional champion?
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