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re: The rants 2 favorite coaches helped get John Emery jr
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:04 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:04 pm to SammyTiger
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1. We started Charles, Traore, Magee Deculus, Lewis, Brumsfield, Hines and Cush.
And Donovaugh Campbell started a game too.
9 fricking players. Like I said. Already down a starter in Ingram. So you are on your 10th guy.
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4. We returned 2 starters and played 2 true freshmen lastbyear and had a better offense.
Brumfield started 13/13
Clapp 13/13
Ingran 12/13
Weathersby 11/13
Charles 9/13
We only went through 7 lineman last year.
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:08 pm to SammyTiger
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All that is bullshite and the reason we looked like shite most of the year is because we weren’t good enough.
lol if you say so. You're really showing your lack of football understanding here.
Do you watch the Saints and what happens when they lose 1 damn lineman? Or Did you see last night when they were down 2 guys? It goes to shite pretty fast.
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Lastbyear Malone misses 6 games,
Malone sucked
the line was better last year because they played together & no one good got hurt for any extended period of time
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:08 pm to Lester Earl
Ok you’re right, but my point remains.
This is an excuse in September. How is it still an excuse in November?
What’s the excuse for sucking vs Arkansas?
This is an excuse in September. How is it still an excuse in November?
What’s the excuse for sucking vs Arkansas?
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:12 pm to SammyTiger
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This is an excuse in September. How is it still an excuse in November?
Sammy. We played several lines that embarrassed teams all year during the stretch. Do you realize how good the fronts MSU, Ala, FL, A&M and UGA have?
We're talking multiple 1st Rd picks here.
Not everything is an excuse. We had some bad luck and it is ok to admit that without anyone saying you want to make out with Coach O. It just makes you a rational person, which you clearly arent
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:14 pm to Lester Earl
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We only went through 7 lineman last year.
Cushenberry
Magee
Brumfield
Clapp
Ingram
Decalus
Charles
Malone
Weathersby
All played in 2017.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:17 pm to Lester Earl
we Have issues.
We weren’t good. arkansas’s front sucked.
Missouri and Kentucky has no problem with Florida’s front.
You’re the one fighting like hell to blame them on OL injuries.
We just weren’t good.
Whether that’s talent, cohesion or a bad scheme, but I somehow Don’t think cohesion alone is going to fix our offense next year.
We weren’t good. arkansas’s front sucked.
Missouri and Kentucky has no problem with Florida’s front.
You’re the one fighting like hell to blame them on OL injuries.
We just weren’t good.
Whether that’s talent, cohesion or a bad scheme, but I somehow Don’t think cohesion alone is going to fix our offense next year.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:04 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Now Ben, is that really necessary?
This is the same guy who jumped all over me in this same thread on the recruiting board because I asked a question.
It went like this:
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Posted by The Pirate King ? ? on 12/18/18 at 10:30 am to Byrdybyrd05
It’s crazy how the high profile recruits, players, former players, current college coaches, etc. think E’s offense is great, but he’s awful and should be fired per the rant
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Besides this Emery link what former players and college coaches are saying his offense is great?
From there I got no response to my question. I was just labeled as a "dick". This is the same guy (in that same thread) saying frick the rant it's a shithole. Yet he posts here more than most
If anyone does have an answer to my question, btw, I would appreciate a link. Was curious which coaches were talking up E's Offense.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:12 pm to Tiger Tracker
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This is the same guy who jumped all over me in this same thread on the recruiting board because I asked a question
It's the same in every thread. Ben and Tiger Ree (yes, I'm mentioning you again) come with personal insults and attacks to any and every person who doesn't agree with them. You either agree with their complete stupidity, or they revert to name calling. It get a kick out of it, but it really is sad.
Every single thread, regardless of what it starts off as, is turned into exactly the same thing if Ben is involved. Erase Ben's post the past few pages and you get rationale discussion from both ends of the argument. That's what is great about this board.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:13 pm to Lester Earl
Is it possible that yes we were injured, but also the line isn't very good? Can't both of those ideas be true?
I just fear that going forward if health is not perfect there's going to be a lack of accountability for this regime. It'll be "well if we would've been healthy we would've been great."
You can look across the SEC and every team has injury problems at a position. Do you feel that this football coach and his regime schematically maximized what we did have, with their ideas of max protect and what not?
I just fear that going forward if health is not perfect there's going to be a lack of accountability for this regime. It'll be "well if we would've been healthy we would've been great."
You can look across the SEC and every team has injury problems at a position. Do you feel that this football coach and his regime schematically maximized what we did have, with their ideas of max protect and what not?
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:15 pm to BayouCowboy
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2017 Auburn had the 15th ranked offense with 452 ypg and 33.8 pts. 2018 they dropped to 98th at 374 ypg and 28.3 ppg. The big difference was offensive line. Auburn was the only team lower than LSU in the SEC in number of starts by returning OL. Stidham was back, but they lost Kerryon Johnson at RB.
Their OL was pretty bad last year too.
Idk if you remember but Clemson murdered Stidham.
I think It’s a lot easier to get bad losing players, but I don’t think it works the opposite way.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:18 pm to Goldrush25
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Is it possible that yes we were injured, but also the line isn't very good? Can't both of those ideas be true?
This is actually the answer.
We have a RT playing LT and a G playing RT. Hines will be better than Brumfield with more experience and hopefully Rosenthal allows Deculus to move to Guard
Cush was a top 5 SEC center this year and will be top 2-3 next year.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:19 pm to SammyTiger
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Their OL was pretty bad last year too.
Idk if you remember but Clemson murdered Stidham.
Yea in like the 2nd game then they pushed around Georgia and Bama's DL in November.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:26 pm to Midtiger farm
We also murdered Stifham
And the UGA shoved their socks in later in the season.
And the UGA shoved their socks in later in the season.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:35 pm to Topwater Trout
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were ranked 3rd in the playoff rankings...is that not elite?
we didn’t finish third so no it’s not elite Posted on 12/18/18 at 5:49 pm to Goldrush25
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Is it possible that yes we were injured, but also the line isn't very good? Can't both of those ideas be true?
That could be true. Brumsfield surely wasn't the same player he was last year after he came back from injury. I reckon he was still hurt, but probably better than what would have amounted to our 4th G behind him.
Charles did not play as well as he did last year. Again, he dealt with injuries all year. Not making excuses, but it isn't exactly cut & dry why they took a step back. My guess is injuries.
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I just fear that going forward if health is not perfect there's going to be a lack of accountability for this regime. It'll be "well if we would've been healthy we would've been great."
There is dealing with your normal injuries, then there is what happened to our offensive line this year.
We will never have perfect health. And if history is any indication, we wont start this many lineman again in a season for nearly 2 more decades.
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Do you feel that this football coach and his regime schematically maximized what we did have, with their ideas of max protect and what not?
Moreau was treated as a 6th OL nearly all year. RBs chipped. Burrow's eyes started looking at the rush instead of downfield, which compounded the issue.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:17 pm to Goldrush25
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Is it possible that yes we were injured, but also the line isn't very good? Can't both of those ideas be true?
I just fear that going forward if health is not perfect there's going to be a lack of accountability for this regime. It'll be "well if we would've been healthy we would've been great."
You can look across the SEC and every team has injury problems at a position. Do you feel that this football coach and his regime schematically maximized what we did have, with their ideas of max protect and what not?
Very objective and reasoned post.
I think it's all of the above. Talent, injuries, experience and coaching.
If we only had issues with 2/4 we would have been fine. 3/4 still struggling, but likely win UF and A&M. All 4 and we get what you saw this season.
Next year we at least upgrade 2/4 - talent and experience. Injuries we don't know, but we only lose one OL and have one 5 star OG committed, 3 OTs and a center so depth at least helps.
The final piece is obviously coaching. Slow developing plays, deep drops and a lack of identity offensively hurt. I don't think SE did enough to mitigate our weaknesses. If those weaknesses are gone next season then scheme/playcalling MAY not be an issue. IDK. SE will be OC in 2019 unless something changes. They will replace Sullivan with a QB coach/passing game coordinator or something in that realm. Hopefully that guy can help schematically. We'll see.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:21 pm to Lester Earl
Idk how much of that is actually I juries VS trying a bunch of different guys out at different spots.
We played 4 guys at Tackle but only because we tried Troare and he sucked. That’s not injury that’s bad player evaluation on our HCs parts.
We playeyed Campbel, Hines and Magee at the same LG position while Brumsfield is out.
Again that’s 3 players to 1 injury.
If we start Deculus at RT from the beginning of the season all of a sudden our OL starting 5 starts 53/60 games
It feels. More like the Coaches fumbling the lineup. And this is all the gift of hindsight but it’s theirnjob to put the best players on the field.
Like 11 OL sounds like lost our whole OL and then another guy.
We played 4 guys at Tackle but only because we tried Troare and he sucked. That’s not injury that’s bad player evaluation on our HCs parts.
We playeyed Campbel, Hines and Magee at the same LG position while Brumsfield is out.
Again that’s 3 players to 1 injury.
If we start Deculus at RT from the beginning of the season all of a sudden our OL starting 5 starts 53/60 games
It feels. More like the Coaches fumbling the lineup. And this is all the gift of hindsight but it’s theirnjob to put the best players on the field.
Like 11 OL sounds like lost our whole OL and then another guy.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:38 pm to SammyTiger
I think it's safe to say Traore and Deculus did not live up to expectations this year. I hope the light comes on next year. The staff has been very high on Rosenthal's athleticism. Saban wanted him as an OT, but he wanted to play DT. We signed him and gave him a shot in the spring, but convinced him his natural position is OT which is where most scouts had him.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 6:43 pm to BayouCowboy
I am for one hoping Rosenthal Hines and Thomas Step up and take a few of these guys jobs.
I am Notnone for continuity when what your continuing is kinda shite.
Well see
I am Notnone for continuity when what your continuing is kinda shite.
Well see
Posted on 12/18/18 at 7:07 pm to SammyTiger
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We played 4 guys at Tackle but only because we tried Troare and he sucked. That’s not injury that’s bad player evaluation on our HCs parts.
Traore only played tackle after Charles and Magee were hurt. They tried Deculus too there.
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We playeyed Campbel, Hines and Magee at the same LG position while Brumsfield is out.
Campbell started when Charles & Brumsfield were injured and Magee started at LT
where are you getting this bad information?
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