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re: The rants 2 favorite coaches helped get John Emery jr

Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:30 pm to
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You think we’ll really make that jump on offense? We were pretty horrendous this year.

2017 Auburn had the 15th ranked offense with 452 ypg and 33.8 pts. 2018 they dropped to 98th at 374 ypg and 28.3 ppg.

The big difference was offensive line. Auburn was the only team lower than LSU in the SEC in number of starts by returning OL. Stidham was back, but they lost Kerryon Johnson at RB.

Poor OL play killed Auburn more than losing Johnson. 2019 will see the addition of the #1 OG Thomas, Hines has emerged as a very good OG option and the development of Rosenthal may give us a better option at OT. No matter what we will have a more experienced OL vs 2018. Maybe Ingram comes back (best OL on 2017 team), maybe he doesn't, but it is safe to say the OL will be better.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:32 pm to
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I’ve seen too much poor pass blocking
Then recruit OL's that played on high school Offenses that threw the ball a lot. The learning curve is not so high then. It's not Rocket Science to understand this concept, but seems to allude the O/E/C trio...……..
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:32 pm to
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it is safe to say the OL will be better.


The same thing was said coming into this season.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5922 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Would it be fair to say that an elite recruiting staff in the SEC should do better than 16th in their second recruiting class?


The staff is not an elite recruiting staff but its better than most people think. Robinson is bad and Sullivan is a recruiting waste. Meatball has a month to prove himself. The rest are good to great recruiters.

Add Burrow to the class and see where it ends up.

Also O made one big mistake and that was the Goodrich/Surtain situation.
Even if you don't include Burrow but include Goodrich the class finishes 10th or 11th
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:34 pm to
Looks like we found one
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:36 pm to
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The same thing was said coming into this season.


Before Ingram got suspended and they had to start 8 different combinations because of injuries.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50955 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:37 pm to
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Before Ingram got suspended and they had to start 8 different combinations because of injuries.


Does this somehow make the assumption that the offensive line had to be better this season correct? No, no it doesn't.

Making assumptions that anything is going to be better before we even know who will be on the roster next year is stupid.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:44 pm to
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He can't recruit? I think you're exaggerating to try to prove a point.



the thread surely doesn't go 21 pages because everyone is agreeing that Coach O is a good recruiter
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78240 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:44 pm to
This was an excuse early in the season but it’s fricking BS now

Charles started 9/12 games and missed La tech, Southeastern, And Ole Miss.
Lewis 12
Cush played 12
Seculars played 10 at RT and 1 at LT ( Southeastern)
Brumsfield played 8.

Games we were actually without more than 1 starter?

2. La Tech and Ole Miss and we actually played pretty well vs Ole Miss.

What was a real issue?

Charles regressed
Brumsfield regressed
Deculus didn’t progress.
Troare looks like a bust.
Lewis and Cush were just OK.

Overall we just weren’t good.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:47 pm to
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This was an excuse early in the season but it’s fricking BS now

Charles started 9/12 games and missed La tech, Southeastern, And Ole Miss.
Lewis 12
Cush played 12
Seculars played 10 at RT and 1 at LT ( Southeastern)
Brumsfield played 8.

Games we were actually without more than 1 starter?

2. La Tech and Ole Miss and we actually played pretty well vs Ole Miss.

What was a real issue?

Charles regressed
Brumsfield regressed
Deculus didn’t progress.
Troare looks like a bust.
Lewis and Cush were just OK.

Overall we just weren’t good.



Sammy, you act like this is normal
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78240 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:54 pm to
OL get hurt all the time.

You act like we’re the only school
It happens to.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:56 pm to
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Do you think that any coaching staff has a competitive edge over Saban? If that answer is no then why would you think it's ok to ask anyone the question you just asked?


You're the one that seems to be projecting a NC in the next couple of years. How do you think we get there if we can't challenge Alabama



You don't have to have a competitive edge over Saban to beat him. Teams have beat him before. Do you honestly think that ole miss has ever had a competitive edge over Saban?

Sammy you eat shite that wasn't me that responded to your post and I know that you're not comparing me to Ree.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78240 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:58 pm to
I was Telling Ree to eat shite.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288371 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 2:59 pm to
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OL get hurt all the time.

You act like we’re the only school
It happens to.


LSU has started this many lineman only 1 other time in the last 18 years.


"OL get hurt all the time"

yea, no shite.


What is the context of that saying?

1 guy getting hurt= OL get hurt all the time

6 guys get hurt= OL get hurt all the time!!!
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:03 pm to
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You don't have to have a competitive edge over Saban to beat him. Teams have beat him before. Do you honestly think that ole miss has ever had a competitive edge over Saban?


You have to do better than two shutouts at home in 3 years. I have no doubt that the football coach and his staff worked diligently to prepare for Bama but for some reason their game plan has been ineffective. No bashing there, those are just facts supported by the evidence.

What do you see in this coaching staff that makes you think we're anywhere close to competing with them?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16529 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:05 pm to
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The same thing was said coming into this season.

With only 2 returning starters after losing our best OL in Ingram I'm surprised anyone said the OL would be better.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78240 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:10 pm to
again.

Post Ole Miss did we not start 4/5 of the same OL

Brumsfield was the only starter that was injured and actually
Missed time and wasn’t replaced.

RT we started Magee in a position battle and Deculus took over pretty quick.

Charles sat out early OOC and Ole
miss, but played VS Auburn, And Miami.

Yeah you can say OL injuries are why we looked like ahitnin September

You can’t say that’s why we looked like shite in October. And we did look like shite vs Arkansas and Alabama.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50955 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:10 pm to
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With only 2 returning starters after losing our best OL in Ingram I'm surprised anyone said the OL would be better.


All we heard was how getting the young guys PT meant they'd be good to go. They weren't.

Now we just have to assume that everyone is going to improve NCAA 14 style. +4 to all returning players, right?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16529 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:15 pm to
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OL get hurt all the time.

Yes and look what it does to a team like FSU who despite having the #3 ranked QB Francois and #1 RB Akers have a shite offense.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:17 pm to
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Yes and look what it does to a team like FSU who despite having the #3 ranked QB Francois and #1 RB Akers have a shite offense


Don't bring that common sense in here. These loons will blow a gasket.
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