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re: The Odds for Baseball

Posted on 5/24/15 at 11:30 am to
Posted by MidCityTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
660 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 11:30 am to
quote:

If you think our pitching is suspect then I'm guessing you are one of those posters that only start to pay attention to baseball in the post season.


I have season tickets. I go to nearly every game. So, you guessed wrong.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 11:37 am to
It is so difficult to win the CWS. It takes a lot of luck and mistakes from the other team as well as talent. I'm hopefully that it all comes together for us.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11653 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 11:39 am to
As a season ticket holder who goes to every game, you should know that the math that goes into determining probablility of victory is more complex than what you posted.

Money ball isn't based on some guy saying "I think the odds are 75 percent."
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32616 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 11:41 am to
Doesn't excuse you from being a total fricking idiot..
Posted by Lsu101205
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2014
3079 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 11:47 am to
10% Luck, 20% Skill, 15% Concentrated Power of Will, 5% Pleasure, 50% Pain, and 100% Reason to Remember the Name.

I did the math, dont worry I double checked it.
Posted by Rally Monkey
Madison, WI
Member since May 2015
233 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 12:28 pm to
Saying LSU has a 25% chance of winning in an 8 team field of what amounts to the nation's hottest teams is where I think the flaw in your calculations is apparent. Everyone has an equal shot in Omaha. Everyone.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7541 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 12:28 pm to
Then you would know LSU is 48-10 this year as a team. 83% winning percentage vs the Best Conference in the Nation.

4 of those losses coming in extra innings.

Everyone looks to our bullpen just to Florida and says it let us down. How about our Bullpen vs Auburn and Arkansas in the SECT? I think it was like 14.2 IP and only giving up 4 runs? 3 were by Godfrey I believe.
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3537 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

We allowed 2 runs yesterday to an Omaha caliber team. We had the #1 ERA in the SEC this season. Our pitching is no more "suspect" than any other team in the country.


Thank you! Yesterday just wasn't our day for hitting or base running. Just happened to be the single elimination round. It happens, now on to Omaha!
Posted by tigger42day
Just south of Mizery
Member since Oct 2004
7126 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 12:53 pm to
Watched UCLA last night, reputed as one of the best pitching staffs in the nation.

One of their better mid relievers came in with a 3-1 lead and one on, gave up a double and a three run HR.

Later after UCLA tied it and went to extras, their bullpen in the 11th hit 2 batters, walked the next and then gave up a walk off single.

Earlier in the year, Berg, the best closer in the nation blew a save in the 13th inning.

Pitching suspect...Welcome to College Baseball

As to your odds, I'll take Rabbits, they're more accurate
Posted by Asllan
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2008
734 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 4:45 pm to
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Therefore, based on the subjective estimations that were made, the chances of LSU both getting to and winning the CWS are approximately 17%.


I find this analysis very interesting. Not everyone likes, or is good at, math. So, some don't appreciate it.

But, I do. Would it make sense to add our history in post-season to your analysis? We have had a number of very good teams get to post-season play. We won it all once, and lost others. The players change, but One factor remains the same. The coach. That is a constant.

I would be interested in your assessment of that.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13373 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

But, I do. Would it make sense to add our history in post-season to your analysis? We have had a number of very good teams get to post-season play. We won it all once, and lost others. The players change, but One factor remains the same. The coach. That is a constant. I would be interested in your assessment of that.


doubt this guy knows hows to run or knows what a Bayesian analysis is so I'm going to have to say no
Posted by Krypto
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Aug 2005
1476 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 5:14 pm to
And please tell us exactly how you came up with the 90% and 75% figures, short of pulling them out your arse. I'm thinking at this point in time, your "subjective judgements" mean nothing.
Posted by Tigersport2014
Member since Aug 2014
824 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 5:15 pm to
...why bother to even go ? Better than 5 - 1 chance you lose ...
Posted by ToxicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
67 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 9:00 pm to

The average statistician is just plain mean

Posted by PythagoreanTiger
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
352 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 9:58 pm to
Winning the regional and winning the super regional are not independent events... Therefore simply multiplying your probabilities (which are merely subjective anyways) is wrong.
Posted by ToxicTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
67 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 10:38 pm to

78.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
10605 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 10:58 pm to
Based on the last week, I'd say making a Super Regional would be a successful season.
Two starters get shelled against sub-par competition. Our one ace holds an Omaha-caliber team scoreless, only to see our bats falter against Johnny Allstaff, and our arson squad bullpen come in and (yet again) blow a save and the game.

We will win our Regional. We will be lucky to get to Omaha, especially if matched up against Houston again. This team will NOT win a NC at CenturyLink, even with the new balls.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22215 posts
Posted on 5/24/15 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Based on the last week, I'd say making a Super Regional would be a successful season.

quote:

We will win our Regional.


What? If we will win our regional like you suggest, then how is simply making a super a successful season. Where do you people come from? We won't face a team like Florida in a super. Although the pitching is a concern, I'm confident that Lange can get us a win. Between Poche, Bain and the rest of the staff, we should be able to win a second game against an inferior team.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5318 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 2:25 am to
We allowed 2 runs yesterday to an Omaha caliber team. We had the #1 ERA in the SEC this season. Our pitching is no more "suspect" than any other team in the country.


Thank you! Yesterday just wasn't our day for hitting or base running. Just happened to be the single elimination round. It happens, now on to Omaha!


Let's talk about expectations because it is so important setting expectations with LSU fans, especially younger ones. I think some of our fans will be upset if we don't win the National Championship. Well the chances are against us to win the National Championship. We will likely be favored to win the National Championship, but that only means we will have more than a 12.5% chance. And about pitching, having two stud starters with a strong closer as well as situational lefties and righties is usually a good formula to win in Omaha. Do we have two stud starters? Maybey, we are young there and might be a year away. We don't have a closer. As far as situational lefties, another question mark...
Posted by BLUEBEARD
BERMUDA TRIANGLE
Member since Aug 2014
547 posts
Posted on 5/25/15 at 6:51 am to
I agree. What kind of fricking logic is that. Please tell me he is not an LSU graduate.
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