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re: The new "No Standing in Tiger Stadium" rule is ridiculous.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 3:29 pm to Pietra
Posted on 8/20/08 at 3:29 pm to Pietra
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OK a-hole, what is the subject of your post? You also quoted the policy re no standing.
Ask yourself a question: “Do I really understand what “subject” means?” Is this not the “subject” of your post: “The new "No Standing in Tiger Stadium" rule is ridiculous.”
Now take your head out of your arse long enough to clean your eyeballs so you can read your own post.
"Would somebody please show this poor a-hole the way out of town."
To quote one of my favorite movies:
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Pietra, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Posted on 8/20/08 at 3:33 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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This is kind of like the smoking in restaurants - I don't like that personal freedoms are being trampled on.
Have to disagree with you on this one point Ghost. I don't think the non smoking rule in restaurants is an impeachment of freedom on a person. They can still smoke just not in the resturant. The can walk a few feet outside to do so. Thus you are not putting danger to other human beings that breath in the second hand smoke that is more dangerous when people smoke. I think personally it's one of the best rules that has been invented because I know I thought it was wrong that I could go in to any resturant and have to breath in that God awful crap that other people are destroying their body with and I have to get my health put at risk because of them.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:01 pm to Jason
The end of the world is coming... When did we become so complacent with winning. "If" (Hopefully never) we ever go back to the Pre Saban years, these people will wish they stood and cheered. In my 24 years of attending LSU athletics I've never told someone to sit down. That is half of the mystique surrounding Death Valley.
Death Valley is not...
Death Valley is not...
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:03 pm to Tigerdew
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Continued standing during game action when
other fans are sitting is discouraged and will be
addressed by game marshals if complaints from other
fans are reasonable and continuous.
i am hoping for a few things with this rule.
first, in reading the text, it doesn't say 'NO STANDING' it says none when other fans are sitting. second, it says that there must be complaints from other fans, and they have to be determined to be reasonable by the marshalls.
hopefully the marshalls will have sense to know that during a key offensive/defensive series in the second half it is unreasonable to expect them to sit.
now, there probably are some marshalls who abuse their authority, and some who are consumed with it. course, that kinda sounds like some cops too.
but someone has to be charged with crowd control, and they are it.
is "common courtesy" something that is so simple it shouldn't have to be put in a fan guide - you're damn right it is. it is pretty pathetic that we have to tell people to act courteous.
unfortunately, the fact is that today too many people have lost a sense of consideration for their fellow man. heck, the responses in this and previous threads to this issue have shown that. it's the whole "i paid my money for my ticket and that gives me the right yada yada yada....F--- everybody else" mantra.
i think putting it in the book is just meant to have something there to backup the marshall at the time, and then later on if needed.
but hey, if it turns out to be a total campaign against standing, then i'll get more fired up.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:13 pm to Jason
Jason - I hear you, and some states do it different. Personally, I hate smoking and love the results of law, but I do believe it infringes on the rights of business owners to do what they want in their own places.
Regardless of the nuances of the law, it is argued that cracking down on smoking, a legal activity, in private businesses in an infringement on rights. Similarly, TELLING people they can't stand up at a footbal game might go down the same track, leaving the question, what's next?
Regardless of the nuances of the law, it is argued that cracking down on smoking, a legal activity, in private businesses in an infringement on rights. Similarly, TELLING people they can't stand up at a footbal game might go down the same track, leaving the question, what's next?
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:18 pm to lsusa
Its a legitimate concern. I don't know if a rule was neccesary. But I am one that stands up an awful lot during games, and I think it is at the times when we should be standing, however have caught myself standing at times when uneccesary, making it difficult for those behind me to see who are still seated. When I catch myself doing this I normally do the courteous thing. Maybe some don't. We will see. Interesting and glad I caught this thread as I knew absolutely nothing about it. Thanks.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:20 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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Regardless of the nuances of the law, it is argued that cracking down on smoking, a legal activity, in private businesses in an infringement on rights. Similarly, TELLING people they can't stand up at a footbal game might go down the same track, leaving the question, what's next?
i have to say there is a different logic at play here:
in case one, your complaint seems to be the government infringing on the rights of private businesses by dictating a rule.
in the second, LSU is the business and is making its own determination as to the standards of its operation.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:23 pm to Tigerdew
Exactly, as many of you've said, this is fricking ridiculous, they are gonna have to kick the whole student-body out of the stadium, because nobody is sitting down. And I am not exaggerating when I say as fans we put as much energy and enthusiasm into a game as our players on the field. We try to create as hostile of an environment as possible. I am litterally physically exausted after a game.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:32 pm to lsusa
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in case one, your complaint seems to be the government infringing on the rights of private businesses by dictating a rule.
in the second, LSU is the business and is making its own determination as to the standards of its operation.
True, it is not a transparent comparison. LSU is the business, and odds are if they mandated everyone to wear Hawaiian shirts and sombreros in TS, people would bitch about it too, but still go.
In this case, it seems they (LSU) are starting to venture more toward infringing on individual "rights," not legally of course, but tradaditional activities that take place at football games.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:34 pm to tigerbait703
Sitting in the student section will not happen...it is in the commandments for the student section...Thall Shall Not Sit.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:39 pm to FightingTiger21
I have season tixs 2 of them.SEC games 100.00 for both seats 90.00 for ooc games.I don't go to games to look at the back of anyone's head when they're standing for no damn reason.Some are too stupid to know when to sit down.I'll ask you once to sit,second time I'll make damn sure you'll sit...Unless your daddy was a glassmaker then stand as long as you want.
This post was edited on 8/20/08 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:39 pm to Coach Guidry
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Sitting in the student section will not happen...it is in the commandments for the student section...Thall Shall Not Sit.
Unless your in the "special sitdown section" that used to sit right behind the goal post. Where are they gonna move to now I wonder.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 4:58 pm to STBTigerr
I think it's sort of ridiculous that they're instituting this rule-- I come to Tiger Stadium to yell my arse off for 3-4 hours; if I wanted to sit I'd go to a lecture or the theatre.
True, I sit during halftime, time-outs, ocassionally during an injury unless it is a critical moment in the game (4th down in 4th quarter) or a critical looking injury. But I'd be just as happy if they put in a "sitting" section like restarants used to have for smokers: let the old people, book readers, and people with kiddies sit there. And take out the bleachers in the rest of the stadium-- just leave tiered steps. If you want to sit, cop a squat in the nacho-cheese drenched cup of tobacco juice someone left.
Then again, it isn't entirely unfounded I guess. We went to an NC State game at FL State last season, and we were the only Wolfpack fans in the section. The two a-hole FSU (redundant, I know) fans directly in front of us stood the entire first quarter-- he was the ONLY stander in the entire section, of course. So we stood too, apologizing to the FSU fans who remained sitting behind us, with no view of the field. But the old dude had no idea who he was messing with-- my wife is a Tiger and therefore can scream like a bull horn. She yelled 8 inches from his ear THE ENTIRE 1st quarter. Other people turned around from rows away to stare in awe. He sat eventually.
True, I sit during halftime, time-outs, ocassionally during an injury unless it is a critical moment in the game (4th down in 4th quarter) or a critical looking injury. But I'd be just as happy if they put in a "sitting" section like restarants used to have for smokers: let the old people, book readers, and people with kiddies sit there. And take out the bleachers in the rest of the stadium-- just leave tiered steps. If you want to sit, cop a squat in the nacho-cheese drenched cup of tobacco juice someone left.
Then again, it isn't entirely unfounded I guess. We went to an NC State game at FL State last season, and we were the only Wolfpack fans in the section. The two a-hole FSU (redundant, I know) fans directly in front of us stood the entire first quarter-- he was the ONLY stander in the entire section, of course. So we stood too, apologizing to the FSU fans who remained sitting behind us, with no view of the field. But the old dude had no idea who he was messing with-- my wife is a Tiger and therefore can scream like a bull horn. She yelled 8 inches from his ear THE ENTIRE 1st quarter. Other people turned around from rows away to stare in awe. He sat eventually.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 5:38 pm to lsusa
quote:
i am hoping for a few things with this rule.
first, in reading the text, it doesn't say 'NO STANDING' it says none when other fans are sitting. second, it says that there must be complaints from other fans, and they have to be determined to be reasonable by the marshalls.
hopefully the marshalls will have sense to know that during a key offensive/defensive series in the second half it is unreasonable to expect them to sit.
now, there probably are some marshalls who abuse their authority, and some who are consumed with it. course, that kinda sounds like some cops too.
but someone has to be charged with crowd control, and they are it.
is "common courtesy" something that is so simple it shouldn't have to be put in a fan guide - you're damn right it is. it is pretty pathetic that we have to tell people to act courteous.
unfortunately, the fact is that today too many people have lost a sense of consideration for their fellow man. heck, the responses in this and previous threads to this issue have shown that. it's the whole "i paid my money for my ticket and that gives me the right yada yada yada....F--- everybody else" mantra.
i think putting it in the book is just meant to have something there to backup the marshall at the time, and then later on if needed.
Well put.
This will be my 25th year of attending LSU games, and I haven't missed a home game in that time. I've sat in various parts of the stadium during that time. People stand when they need to stand, and they sit when they need to sit. Other than in the student section, I can't say I've ever seen anybody stand the entire game. But amazingly, there seem to be a ton of them in this thread.
I stand and yell a good bit during games. I also encourage others to do the same. I also sit a good bit as well. I've never been asked to sit, nor have I had to ask anyone to sit. It's hard to believe that there needs to be a printed guideline for standing, but after reading this thread, it's obvious that there are a lot of people lacking common courtesy.
BTW, I'm not sure about the others here, but I can yell from a seated position, though it is much more fun to do it while standing.
And it sounds like there will have to be a lot of complaints for any action to be taken anyway, so this is most likely much ado about nothing.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 5:44 pm to Tigerdew
My seats are on the very top row of the bowl. I dare one these seat nazis to tell me anything for standing. THats the exact reason i bought my seats and have turned down every chance to up grade. I want to be able to stand up when I damn well feel like it.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 6:25 pm to Tigerdew
wow are we trying to lose our rep as the most feared place to play? This is bullshite
Posted on 8/20/08 at 6:25 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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In this case, it seems they (LSU) are starting to venture more toward infringing on individual "rights," not legally of course, but tradaditional activities that take place at football games.
i am sure there is at least one incident that motivated this.
my guess is that it probably involved a small number of people standing up the entire game while an overwhelming majority around them were sitting.
we may have to just respectfully disagree on this, but while folks do have a right to enjoy a game i think they also have a responsibility to be considerate of other fans. in such your rights are limited.
i would be 100% against a total no standing policy. on the other hand if someone is standing for the entire game for no other reason than the prefer to do so, i think LSU has the right to ask them to sit if they are disturbing the MAJORITY of other fans.
but let me also want to say that just like i agree that two lone idiots that are standing up during the game yakking at each other and not paying attention should sit down - if you are in row 30 and 29 rows in front of you are standing, then the guy in row 31 doesn't need to complain about you standing.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 6:42 pm to BMoney
>Other than in the student section, I can't say I've ever
>seen anybody stand the entire game.
The first 7 or 8 rows of the stadium are too low to the ground for spectators to see the field over the coaches and players that are standing along the sidelines. All ticket-holders in those rows have no choice but to stand if they want to see any of the game. I doubt that the marshals will ask those people to sit.
>seen anybody stand the entire game.
The first 7 or 8 rows of the stadium are too low to the ground for spectators to see the field over the coaches and players that are standing along the sidelines. All ticket-holders in those rows have no choice but to stand if they want to see any of the game. I doubt that the marshals will ask those people to sit.
Posted on 8/20/08 at 6:44 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
I agree. This is for the 60 year olds ( not all ) with money who show up to half the games and leave at half time. They support the TAF however. This is how home field goes to crap. Ask Michigan. 106K unemotional "viewers" watching a game.
This post was edited on 8/20/08 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 8/20/08 at 6:46 pm to xLxSxUxFxAxNx
What about those who sit on the top row?
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