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The more LSU MBB loses, the more the goal posts shift.

Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:11 am
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42713 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:11 am
It started with CoachMc just needs time to build a program and now rests at we can't afford to fire him.

Do people read their own posts? Just shift position or just name call. Lol.

I'm upset we're 1-7 SEC and just got blown out at home.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164194 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:16 am to
The butt Pirate is just a blithering idiot.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8022 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:20 am to
He's had the time at this point. The regression continues.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37680 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:25 am to
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It started with CoachMc just needs time


That was true through last season and at least the team was trending up. It is not true anymore and the team is trending down.

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and now rests at we can't afford to fire him.



That is utter nonsense. The fact that most people saying this seem to think we would have to come up with a lump sum tells you all you need to know. LSU can afford to pay McMahon's contract and pay a new coach, particularly if McMahon gets another job (which he will) and offsets part of the payments.

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Do people read their own posts? Just shift position or just name call. Lol.



A lot of people on here want to be right or argue so they stake out indefensible positions. It is both mind-boggling and disappointing. And don't forget trolls.

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I'm upset we're 1-7 SEC and just got blown out at home.


Anyone who isn't is either in denial as a coping mechanism or just not much of a basketball fan. I could have taken a close loss but this was just awful.

You know me pretty well, Drizz, I'm an optimistic person by nature. I don't have much optimism left about where this program is headed under Coach McMahon.

And yet I will still watch the entire next game.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32021 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:31 am to
I don’t know. I think this is the first time the “he needs more time” crowd seems to be starting to turn. They took solace in the moral victories vs Alabama and Auburn (even I was somewhat encouraged by the effort @ Alabama). But the team quit in this loss. The worst home loss in school history to an unranked team. That yet another in a constant string of losses.

I actually think those saying LSU can’t afford to fire him are trying to be pragmatic more than supportive. But while the buyout isn’t chump change, it’s not some massive number relative to ~$70M for Kelly, or even $16M for O. No, you don’t want to have to pay that after 3 years, but things change. What should be you 2nd most profitable business is tanked. Another year is only going to produce more losses and more important, lost opportunity to improve.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42713 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:35 am to
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You know me pretty well, Drizz, I'm an optimistic person by nature. I don't have much optimism left about where this program is headed under Coach McMahon.

And yet I will still watch the entire next game.
Always.

I need your optimism. You're not blind nor disingenuous. That's why I appreciate you so much.

We'll watch the games, we don't give up, but - if you see and admit it - everyone else needs to see as well.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
20605 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:37 am to
The most embarrassing time for lsu mens bball. Texas scoring 58 in a half and us scoring that in the game
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28772 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:38 am to
McMahon is nothing more than a McValue menu coach.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
5538 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:40 am to
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drizztiger


I honest to god feel sorry for your family. I doubt that you are married, you are far too emotionally unstable. But, I'm sure that you have parents, and if not, brothers and sisters. I'm also sure that they know how you are.

Dude, we all know that the program is not doing well, at all. We realize something will happen, probably sooner rather than later. Your sky screaming starting multiple threads, then lying about people shifting positions. What you really mean as that normal, intelligent, balanced posters, while not liking the direction of the program, also are not on here creating multiple threads an hour sky screaming and having to be talked off the edge. Most rational people will voice their opinion, and move on, knowing and expecting that changes will be made. Your emotional outbursts aren't going to change anything any sooner. Take a break sport, for your own mental health.
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 7:41 am
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58308 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:41 am to
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It started with CoachMc just needs time to build a program


That was a completely fair point at one time
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37680 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:45 am to
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I honest to god feel sorry for your family. I doubt that you are married, you are far too emotionally unstable. But, I'm sure that you have parents, and if not, brothers and sisters. I'm also sure that they know how you are.

Dude, we all know that the program is not doing well, at all. We realize something will happen, probably sooner rather than later. Your sky screaming starting multiple threads, then lying about people shifting positions. What you really mean as that normal, intelligent, balanced posters, while not liking the direction of the program, also are not on here creating multiple threads an hour sky screaming and having to be talked off the edge. Most rational people will voice their opinion, and move on, knowing and expecting that changes will be made. Your emotional outbursts aren't going to change anything any sooner. Take a break sport, for your own mental health.


This comes across as exactly what you are trying to say about Drizz. I guess he hit a little close to home for you?

Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16499 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:48 am to
That second half may have been the worst half of basketball I can recall since Dale's final year. Utterly brutal.

Weird how it happened Texas went the last four plus minutes of the first half and second two minutes of the second half with no points, 11 possessions total and over 6 minutes. But in that time we only scored 4 points the score going from 31-23 to 31-27 in that time.

At that moment Texas did not look very good to me and looked as if we were still in the ball game only due to their poor play.

Then the rest of the game they could not miss. Some of it was great play and execution and some of it was us with live ball turnovers and poor defense but geez they must have shot 70% in the second half? and of course our offense looked lost and void of any sense of purpose,.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
5538 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:49 am to
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But while the buyout isn’t chump change, it’s not some massive number relative to ~$70M for Kelly, or even $16M for O.


This ain't football, and you know it. Calling it the second most profitable business is like putting me, shaq, and 3 midgets in a room, and asking who the second best basketball player is. 1st and 2nd ain't close.

I'm all for change, especially if someone ponies up. What I don't want is for LSU to have take money away from the football program. Hell, spend the money on some great players for a year, it'll be far cheaper and could help build momentum. Watching that team yesterday, Texas was SO much more talented. Our guards are not SEC level guards, at all...and that in a nut shell is the difference. While we miss Reed, we have some physical players under the goal that can get the job done. What we can't overcome is our guard play, and that is on MM. If we just had an elite PG I believe you would see a huge difference in this team. We can't even dribble in traffic without getting the ball knocked away routinely.

I believe he will a.) be gone after this year, or b.) we will make a huge splash in the portal for some top tier guards....but, there is always c.) continue down same road another year.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42713 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:52 am to
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Mandtgr47
You bleed all over this board every day. You're on pace for 280k posts that mean nothing.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
5538 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:55 am to
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hen the rest of the game they could not miss. Some of it was great play and execution and some of it was us with live ball turnovers and poor defense but geez they must have shot 70% in the second half? and of course our offense looked lost and void of any sense of purpose,.


Our offense IS lost, because we do not have SEC level guards. Not even close. Yes, they can score a little, but when they do it is much more of a "me, me, me" aspect than distribution of the ball for good shots. These guards may be the worst passing and dribble guards we have ever had. As for Texas getting hot...they got confident because they knew the team on the other side wasn't going to beat them last night. I saw the same when Ark went to KY. They couldn't miss, shot like 70% in second half and over 50% from 3 for the game I believe. It happens sometimes. But, this team is just not talented enough, or even close, and that is on MM, or lack of NIL money. IDK.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9755 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 7:56 am to
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I honest to god feel sorry for your family. I doubt that you are married, you are far too emotionally unstable.

You mediocrity lovers always project your own issues onto other people.

When are you going to explain how Vanderbilt, Missouri, ole miss, miss st, etc were able to acquire so much more talent than lsu in the same or less amiunt of time?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31771 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:04 am to
McMeh
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 8:06 am
Posted by lovinLSU
lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
14321 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:04 am to
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This comes across as exactly what you are trying to say about Drizz. I guess he hit a little close to home for you?
.. seems Drizz struck a nerve..must of felt pretty guilty and PARANOID to have to respond to the so called “mental problems” supposably Drizz has.. LMAO.. I knew it wouldn’t b long before he (mantgr47) chimes in bitching about the same thing he is accusing Drizz of doing..dude needs an emotional check for sure, he’s about to blow a few gaskets.. lighten up Francis, it’s a fricking basketball game..turn your pit bull attack mode off for a while and learn to chill.. I hope you’re not into politics too… GEEZZZZ… LMAO..
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 8:08 am
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8490 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:07 am to
Football is not what is keeping basketball from being good, it is Matt McMahon and Scott Woodward.

Sure, basketball doesn't have the financial potential that football has, but it is the only other sport with any potential to be profitable. There is plenty of room for both programs to thrive if they weren't being run so poorly.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16499 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:14 am to
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Our offense IS lost, because we do not have SEC level guards. Not even close. Yes, they can score a little, but when they do it is much more of a "me, me, me" aspect than distribution of the ball for good shots. These guards may be the worst passing and dribble guards we have ever had. As for Texas getting hot.


Two things can be true at once....and in this case IMHO are. You can be less than stellar in experienced talent at certain positions - in this case as you say ball handling guards - and underachieve even given that and lack any adjustments to compensate or play to strengths. I've seen teams with less talent than this one run better offense.

I watched some of the stuff Texas ran, we could do some of that.....we don't. We run our guards into poorly executed high ball screens that blow up the offense before it gets started and because no one is moving or screening away from the ball, at least properly, no is open so the only shot is that the guard can dribble through traffic and maybe get a shot or layup off or get fouled.

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