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The Joe Brady "Smoke and Mirrors" narrative on this board
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:00 pm
LSU 2018
Pass yds per game: 228.5 (7th in SEC, 68th in NCAA)
Total Pass TD: 17 (11th in SEC, 88th in NCAA)
Points per game: 32.4 (7th in SEC, 38th in NCAA)
LSU 2019
Pass yds per game: 401.6 (1st in SEC, 2nd in NCAA)
Total Pass TD: 61 (1st in NCAA)
Points per game: 48.4 (1st in NCAA)
It should be noted that Joe Burrow, CEH, Ja'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson were on both of these teams with Ensminger as the OC. And yes, while players obviously improve from year to year, I think it's safe to assume the huge discrepancy in stats from 2018-2019 is based more on just improvement.
Hell just go back and watch the offensive sets we're running in 2018 and 2020 and compare that to what we were doing in 2019. No matter how many people want to shortchange Brady because he's likely not coming back here as OC, it's ridiculous to say that he didn't have a hugely positive impact on our offense.
He would be a welcome addition as an OC if we can somehow get him back.
Pass yds per game: 228.5 (7th in SEC, 68th in NCAA)
Total Pass TD: 17 (11th in SEC, 88th in NCAA)
Points per game: 32.4 (7th in SEC, 38th in NCAA)
LSU 2019
Pass yds per game: 401.6 (1st in SEC, 2nd in NCAA)
Total Pass TD: 61 (1st in NCAA)
Points per game: 48.4 (1st in NCAA)
It should be noted that Joe Burrow, CEH, Ja'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson were on both of these teams with Ensminger as the OC. And yes, while players obviously improve from year to year, I think it's safe to assume the huge discrepancy in stats from 2018-2019 is based more on just improvement.
Hell just go back and watch the offensive sets we're running in 2018 and 2020 and compare that to what we were doing in 2019. No matter how many people want to shortchange Brady because he's likely not coming back here as OC, it's ridiculous to say that he didn't have a hugely positive impact on our offense.
He would be a welcome addition as an OC if we can somehow get him back.
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:01 pm to Broski
The Brady backlash has been ridiculous
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:01 pm to Broski
Good post. Amazing that some don't see it that way.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:02 pm to Broski
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:04 pm to Broski
Let’s get him back as WR coach and Co-OC. He still has a lot to learn, but his potential is ridiculous. His work with receivers here was unlike anything seen before, and bringing him in as Co-OC allows him to learn a little more on play calling and would allow him to have a similar role as to 2019. Wouldn’t be mad at all if he came back
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:04 pm to Broski
Everyone knows this only the retards think Brady's time in Carolina turned him into a bad play caller. But I don't think he's who Kelly is after
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:05 pm to Broski
Joe Brady = Game Genie
Steve Ensminger = 6yr old trying to beat Contra
Steve Ensminger = 6yr old trying to beat Contra
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:06 pm to MasterAbe1
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allows him to learn a little more on play calling
I want you to please explain what he specifically needs to learn about playcalling.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:06 pm to Broski
2019 Joe Burrow was worlds better than 2018 Joe Burrow. Brady didnt have a thing to do with QB development, Ensminger and Jorge Munoz worked with the QBs.
2018 Chase was hurt.
Brady did a great job w the WRs but being the mastermind behind the success...nah.
2018 Chase was hurt.
Brady did a great job w the WRs but being the mastermind behind the success...nah.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:08 pm to athletemed
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2019 Joe Burrow was worlds better than 2018 Joe Burrow
You don't go from 17 touchdowns to 61 in the matter of a year by yourself bruh.
Brady had a big hand in that as passing game coordinator.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:08 pm to athletemed
quote:the system brady installed was to play to burrows strengths. You can downplay Brady all you want but it’s fricking stupid to do so
019 Joe Burrow was worlds better than 2018 Joe Burrow. Brady didnt have a thing to do with QB developme
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:09 pm to ipodking
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The Brady backlash has been ridiculous
I do not understand it either, but I also understand what Brady was able to do what he did in 1 year with a lot of experienced players, a generational QB and Slinger minding the store.
Here is the big question with Brady, can he develop QBs and teach an offense to inexperienced players? That is the rub I believe.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:10 pm to Broski
We can get him back the call just needs to be made but to this point it hasn’t and Miami is pushing hard for him.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:10 pm to athletemed
Brady also brought the “vanilla” version of the Saints offensive plays. I think people hear “Joe Brady’s offense” and assume he called the plays. He instilled the NFL-type offensive plays from the Saints. Ensminger had the strategy for utilizing the plays.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:11 pm to Broski
When did this start? I just assume people saying this shite about Brady are fricking morons in general.
Also, these idiots think Brady got fired in Carolina cause of poor performance. Supposedly that’s not why he got fired.
Hell he got more good games out of Darnold early this year than Darnold had his entire career with Jets. He had that backup looking competent also until they decided to bring in Cam and tank the season.
Also, these idiots think Brady got fired in Carolina cause of poor performance. Supposedly that’s not why he got fired.
Hell he got more good games out of Darnold early this year than Darnold had his entire career with Jets. He had that backup looking competent also until they decided to bring in Cam and tank the season.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:13 pm to BigNastyTiger417
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Brady also brought the “vanilla” version of the Saints offensive plays. I think people here “Joe Brady’s offense” and assume he called the plays. He instilled the NFL-type offensive plays from the Saints. Ensminger had the strategy for utilizing the plays.
This is true to some degree. Even Slinger admitted Brady was calling some plays and series. Again, the issue with Brady is not if he is a good offensive mind, it is can he teach it to inexperienced players? That is the task. It is not sprinkling in some NFL concepts to basically a experienced group of NFL talent.
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When did this start? I just assume people saying this shite about Brady are fricking morons in general.
Simply he failed at Carolina but he is the one that gave us Peetz. So, that is two dings on his judgement.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:23 pm to FreddieMac
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Again, the issue with Brady is not if he is a good offensive mind, it is can he teach it to inexperienced players?
What does this even mean? Burrow had one year of mediocre starting play under him. Marshall and Chase were true sophomores.
I honestly don’t understand this argument. You could literally make this argument for any first time OC or DC.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:29 pm to Broski
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I think it's safe to assume the huge discrepancy in stats from 2018-2019 is based more on just improvement.
One of the most significant stats you can reference is the drop rate from 2018-2019. Sure does make stats look alot better when your open receivers catch the ball that's thrown into their chest. Not to mention, Chase went from a Mustang in speed to a Ferrari from 2018-2019.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:30 pm to FreddieMac
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Simply he failed at Carolina
Did he? I’d say he did a decent job considering what he was working with and the fact that the head coach accidentally admitted they fricked up the Mac Jones thing.
Rumor the main NFL guy on The Ringer heard from people is that Brady was let go cause they didn’t like he was listening to offers for other jobs or some shite. I think Rhule used him as a scapegoat.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:36 pm to Broski
It’s very simple and it’s 90+% of the negative Rant narratives you see. It’s sour grapes, Brady left and a large portion of the Rant will look for reasons to discredit and attack him for it. This happens with every coach who leaves or is fired from LSU and intensifies for someone like Brady who was so successful then left on his own. Nobody does butt hurt like the Rant.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 2:38 pm
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