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The issue here is not clearing Smart...it’s if they do they clear WW also

Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:49 am
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2668 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:49 am
That’s why they are thinking so hard about it. Once he’s cleared to play then they themselves are admitting there was nothing to the tapes. It’s why Wade is quiet and the admins are freaking out. It eliminates firing Wade with cause and will ramp up the pressure to #freewillwade. Alleva has made is own bed and now he can’t figure out what to do.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:50 am to
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The issue here is not clearing Smart...it’s if they do they clear WW also


Clearing Smart does not clear Wade.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9032 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:51 am to
I agree with the above poster. Why do Smart and Wade have to be a package deal?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278400 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:52 am to
Or the hangup with clearing Smart is that there is something there they are worried about.

I think they would love to clear them both. They could have fired Wade already if they wanted to.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:53 am to
WW is on tape talking about offer to 3rd party on behalf of Smart. Smart can play the Cam card and claim no knowledge. Unless there is a paper trail, money deposit into account or FBI tapes of Smart, he can be cleared and have no effect on WW.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2668 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:54 am to
If Smart plays they are saying there is nothing to the tapes. Wade coaching is not an NCAA issue. He can coach and not risk anything. It’s the player that risks games being vacated. So if Smart plays they are saying the tapes were not a big deal. If the tapes didn’t disqualify Smart then by defecto they say Wade did nothing wrong in his recruitment.
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
10909 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:54 am to
This whole thing is dumb He already played in every game basically.

If something is found we're vacating everything. Just play the kid.

Our admin virtue signaling thinking they can reduce punishment from the NCAA. Not sure why they're trying to save the program from harsher sanctions. We're fricked for the next decade once again thanks to their stupidity.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18963 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:55 am to
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Or the hangup with clearing Smart is that there is something there they are worried about.



Alleva's worried about what cereal he's going to eat in the morning.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123915 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:59 am to
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The issue here is not clearing Smart...it’s if they do they clear WW also
Yep.
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Do yall think Javonte Smart is going to play?
No.

If Smart returns, then Wade should return. The two are tied. LSU seems unbelievably determined to fire Wade. Does not bode well for Smart at all . . . . or for LSU.
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Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13575 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:59 am to
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I agree with the above poster. Why do Smart and Wade have to be a package deal?


-Wade is in this situation because there's allegedly vague circumstantial conversation recorded about offering a player incentive to play for LSU

-That player is Javonte Smart

-Smart was held out by our own administration due to "an abundance of caution". That was a self sanctioned save face PR move that set a precedent

-If Smart is "cleared to play", then that is an admission that he has done nothing wrong and has not received any incentives in 2017

-If Smart did not receive any incentives to play in 2017 and the administration admits this by default of letting him play, then it will directly turn into the next order of action - which is if the recruit that is in question in this entire fiasco in the first place, then why exactly is Wade in the situation he's in. The admins want him to come in to "answer questions". All of the answers to those questions would be answered if they let Smart play.

-The administration made this bed one wrong move after another and by constantly doubling down on stupid every step of the way, they cannot crawfish now because well that would be bad for the ego and PR and it's evident that those are the two main factors driving every single PR move, not to much mention trying to allow Wade to hang himself so that they won't have to pay for his buyout. IF they crawfish now, it's admitting that they are wrong. That takes character and security.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 9:02 am
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51223 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:00 am to
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do they clear WW also



is Smart on wiretaps too? no? ok

/thread
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4572 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:00 am to
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Clearing Smart does not clear Wade.


Unless they have something else on WW, yes it does.
Posted by Cannon style
Homer,La.
Member since Sep 2018
1582 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:02 am to
Who took down the post of Smart not playing today.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 9:05 am
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:04 am to
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If Smart did not receive any incentives to play in 2017 and the administration admits this by default of letting him play, then it will directly turn into the next order of action - which is if the recruit that is in question in this entire fiasco in the first place, then why exactly is Wade in the situation he's in. The admins want him to come in to "answer questions". All of the answers to those questions would be answered if they let Smart play.


HAVE NO IDEA IF THE FOLLOWING IS TRUE-- but-- What if Wade gave money to 3rd party to pay Smart, and Javonte did not know and never received $$$-- a la Cam. Is WW cleared bc Smart ruled eligible to play?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278400 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:07 am to
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Our admin virtue signaling thinking they can reduce punishment from the NCAA. Not sure why they're trying to save the program from harsher sanctions. We're fricked for the next decade once again thanks to their stupidity.



This is untrue. If the university knows about these actions and does not come up with some type of corrective action, then they are on the hook for more severe penalties.
Posted by Paul Maul number 37
Member since Feb 2009
1111 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:11 am to
A wire tap of Wade actually making an offer to a recruit would be proof that such occurred. A wire tap of Wade talking about an offer that was made to a recruit during a conversation with someone else entirely is not proof that an offer was actually made. Wade might have had a reason for bringing the subject up and lying to Dawkins. With Smart denying that there was an offer made, there is no proof that it happened. Wade is clean to coach as the NCAA doesn't have jack shite on him.
Posted by KC_LSUFAN
Kansas City
Member since Jun 2017
591 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:13 am to
Looks like someone has read my twitter post LINK


THIS IS WHY SMART WILL NOT BE CLEAR TO PLAY....
Alleva, F-cked this one up like he did the Les Miles Firing and the Head Coach Hiring.....
Alleva is the reason we ended up with O and not Jimbo...
The Guy(alleva) is an idiot
And his days are numbered as he put LSU in a VERY BAD POSITION!!!
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34086 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:16 am to
The 3 idiots want Wade gone. Theyre in arse-saving mode, because theyre complicit in the mess, that they created, due to their gross incompetence.

I keep harping on it...They knew in Oct'18 about the transcript, and yet Smart continued to play.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:23 am to
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dnm3305


Damn, that was a good post.

and
Posted by KC_LSUFAN
Kansas City
Member since Jun 2017
591 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:25 am to
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A wire tap of Wade actually making an offer to a recruit would be proof that such occurred. A wire tap of Wade talking about an offer that was made to a recruit during a conversation with someone else entirely is not proof that an offer was actually made. Wade might have had a reason for bringing the subject up and lying to Dawkins. With Smart denying that there was an offer made, there is no proof that it happened. Wade is clean to coach as the NCAA doesn't have jack shite on him.



Maybe he was offering to have his McDonalds Meal Supersized.... I'll take him to Cracker Barrel vs McDonalds???
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