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re: The Final Series: A Series of Pictures
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:03 am to just me
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:03 am to just me
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just me
Soooo, your saying that Hebert fricked up by snapping it?
Also, your angle is terrible to decide if JJ was behind the center or not. The appropriate angle (SEZ) has been shown already on this board and shows he is out of position. Simple.
Either way, wtf was JJ looking for? Reading the defense?
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Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:04 am to Hill Tiger
Well Miles should have had the offense, in the case the play didn't score or stop the clock, to automatically line of to clock the ball. Not try to run guys in and out with the clock running. I don't think JJ did anything wrong. It was Miles.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:04 am to just me
Today its being reported that Jefferson called for the ball with 3 seconds left but crowd noise caused a delay.. He does clap his hands in the picture. Why he wasnt looking for the ball I dont know.. They said he was checking the clock again.. 
So what is it? Did Tbob snap the ball because of Jefferson or not?
So what is it? Did Tbob snap the ball because of Jefferson or not?
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:04 am to just me
RIGHT HERE.......he's standing there like a fricking buffoon. RIGHT HERE......he needs to be lining his guys up to clock the ball........RIGHT HERE he's looking around with a dumb look on his face......RIGHT HERE......if he's lining up his guys to clock it, guys don't have time to subsititute.
JEFFERSON IS GOD AWFUL........
JEFFERSON IS GOD AWFUL........
This post was edited on 10/5/10 at 10:05 am
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:04 am to bee Rye
quote:Perhaps you would have been better served to read rather than post. This is what I posted:quote:still comes down to this. here is where the coaches screwed up the most.
JJ had no business being on the field at that point.
but I know how much just me loves JJ, so I won't bash him in here, mostly because it hurts watching him try to defend JJ so much
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There are at least three reasons why Jefferson should not have replaced Lee on second down. First, Lee had driven the team down the field, was warm, and should have taken the team into the endzone. Second, there is no compelling strategic reason to sub Jefferson for Lee at the two. LSU can run or throw with Lee in the game. Third, with no timeouts, three plays available, and Lee having the hot throwing hand, Lee should have stayed in to throw passes for second, and/or third, and/or fourth down. LSU could have played more passing downs than running downs.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:04 am to just me
Good Lord you have a lot of time on your hands.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:04 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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JJ had no business being on the field at that point.
Crowton had no business bringing him in for the option then subbing back in players after that failed. Ultimately, the play calling made it virtually impossible for him to succeed in that situation.
I'm not a JJ supporter either, but the coaching and play calling is the main problem with his "bad" decision making at the end of games. They should make it easier for the QB to succeed, NOT harder.
FU Crowton.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:06 am to just me
quote:Agreed. This is where it all went wrong.
There are at least three reasons why Jefferson should not have replaced Lee on second down.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:06 am to TheDoc
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Not correct.. Thats a NFHS rule. In NCAA and NFL you are legally allowed to spike the ball from the shotgun formation.
Ok, I stand corrected, thanks.
He still had time to clock the ball with 4 seconds. He only had time for one play anyway!!
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:06 am to just me
From now on, this is your Delta Tau Chi Theme Song.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:07 am to just me
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Third, with no timeouts, three plays available, and Lee having the hot throwing hand, Lee should have stayed in to throw passes for second, and/or third, and/or fourth down.
Is this your perverted attempt to say that Lee is the better QB?
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:07 am to just me
The whole mess started with Crowton taking J Lee out of the game so he could run his precious QB option to the weak side....ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE.
If we keep J Lee in the game...i think we call 2 plays with no intentions of subtituting...then if the second play (presumably a pass) is imcomplete...there is still time to run a play on 4th down. Then you can substitute like crazy with the clock stopped...which you addressed.
Why bring in JJ is the main question...especially when Ridley was having such a great day?
If we keep J Lee in the game...i think we call 2 plays with no intentions of subtituting...then if the second play (presumably a pass) is imcomplete...there is still time to run a play on 4th down. Then you can substitute like crazy with the clock stopped...which you addressed.
Why bring in JJ is the main question...especially when Ridley was having such a great day?
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:08 am to Prominentwon
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RIGHT HERE.......he's standing there like a fricking buffoon. RIGHT HERE......he needs to be lining his guys up to clock the ball........RIGHT HERE he's looking around with a dumb look on his face......RIGHT HERE......if he's lining up his guys to clock it, guys don't have time to subsititute.
JEFFERSON IS GOD AWFUL........
This is true. What the frick is he even looking at?
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:08 am to TheDoc
quote:I agree that Jefferson clapped before the ball was snapped. However, it your supposition that clapping is calling for the ball. I don't think that it is.quote:I noticed you left out the picture of Jefferson calling and clapping for the ball while simultaneously looking away a half second later.
before he heard Jefferson call for it.
In any event, Hebert stated that he snapped it before he heard Jefferson call for it.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:09 am to just me
therefore, the substitutions were to blame for burning too much time. that has already been hashed to death.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:09 am to Powerman
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This is true. What the frick is he even looking at?
Everyone on the field is lining up to clock that ball except Jefferson.......who is no where near where he should be to kill the clock.
A high school QB could have done it.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:11 am to Swat5
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The whole mess started with Crowton taking J Lee out of the game so he could run his precious QB option to the weak side....ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE.
If we actually had a 'braintrust' on the offensive coaching staff 2nd/3rd down would have been a perfect time to break out the secret playbook with Shepard having a runn/pass read option.
He probably would have been the fastest dude on the field. Maybe a run to the wide side and dare them to catch him before the pylon.
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:11 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:This and this.
What should have been done (once they brought JJ into the game on 2nd down) was run the first play with a second play called. The second play has to be a pass play that is thrown into the end zone either complete for TD or incomplete to stop the clock. That would leave one last play from the one yard line to do whatever you want with whatever personnell you want.
The real stupidity was attempting to change personnell with the clock running and not having the 3rd down play called and the players ready to run it after Jefferson's second down run failed. This was all GARY CROWTON. His cuteness comes back to bite us over and over and over.
quote:Lee was getting into a groove throwing the ball. He made some very costly mental mistakes, but his arm was hot.
Oh, and I also agree they should have never subbed in JJ at the end. it was the coaches outthinking themselves. You take a kid out who is locked in and in control of what's going on.
Edited to change JJ to Lee in final second.
This post was edited on 10/5/10 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:11 am to cstev12
NO NO NO NO NO NON NOOOOOOOOO!!!! with 19 seconds and 2 downs, you do not clock the ball and waste 50% of your opportunity to win the game.
19 seconds is plenty of time to have two plays if the coaches would have had it planned that way. Instead they run a different QB out there without two plays called and expect him to figure it out.
Jefferson cannot think on his feet anyway. with LEE staying in the game we could have ran Ridley on second down instead of JJ and STILL had a pass play on 3rd down and a run play on 4th if need be WITHOUT CLOCKING IT>
19 seconds is plenty of time to have two plays if the coaches would have had it planned that way. Instead they run a different QB out there without two plays called and expect him to figure it out.
Jefferson cannot think on his feet anyway. with LEE staying in the game we could have ran Ridley on second down instead of JJ and STILL had a pass play on 3rd down and a run play on 4th if need be WITHOUT CLOCKING IT>
Posted on 10/5/10 at 10:12 am to Prominentwon
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What the frick is he even looking at?
It was said he was looking at the clock
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