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The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassing
Posted by Brazos
on 10/13/19 at 9:32 am
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155First of all O approves each gameplan and the schemes they run and I’m quite confident that between Aranda and O they know more about defense than the rant does. Yes the defense is giving up more points than usual and some 3rd downs but they always seem to come up big in crunch time. Trask was making throws last night that couldn’t be defended and Florida has some serious speed on offense so anyone that thinks Florida isn’t any good just doesn’t have a clue. This is one of the best LSU teams in a long time so just enjoy the show instead of incessantly crying about the defense.
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by RogerTheShrubber 
on 10/13/19 at 9:36 am to Brazos
on 10/13/19 at 9:36 am to BrazosThe complaints were warranted in the first half. Aranda addressed it though and did exactly what we wanted him to do, everyone should be pleased.
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by Allthatfades on 10/13/19 at 9:41 am to ccomeaux
The first half sucked. It was inexcusable. Second half, outside of the first drive, was much much better.
This is the same shite I heard about Les and our past offense. “Coach knows best!” I think Aranda is a very good defensive mind but don’t tell me not to believe my lying eyes. The defense has looked bad. I hope they can figure it out but we definitely need to get a better pass rush.
The only thing embarrassing was the complete inability of the defense to stop a perfectly mediocre Florida offense with a severely inexperienced QB.
Finally getting a few stops in the second half doesn't overshadow an overall inept performance.
Finally getting a few stops in the second half doesn't overshadow an overall inept performance.
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by CharlesLSU on 10/13/19 at 9:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
on 10/13/19 at 9:43 am to RogerTheShrubberExactly
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by ShortyRob on 10/13/19 at 9:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
on 10/13/19 at 9:44 am to RogerTheShrubberquote:
The complaints were warranted in the first half.
Honestly, I've come to the conclusion this year that this isn't true.
He's clearly taking the "my offense is gonna score so, I'm gonna make you have to prove you can string together a bunch of long assed drives with no mistakes" approach.
It's frankly, an infuriating thing to watch, but, I get the approach. He's not normally a vanilla coordinator so, this approach is definitely calculated.
He has a couple player issues on the back end in terms of who can cover multi receiver sets. And, while he might be able to blitz a lot early, LSU's offense shows us every week that blitzes can sometimes result in very quick points.
Aranda wants to give nothing easy knowing that college offenses will stumble at some point. And, in every game, he's saved his "games" up front for the 2nd half.
It's gonna be hard to watch, but, make no mistake, I don't think it's an accident. The point is to win, and, this seems to be our recipe
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by memphis tiger on 10/13/19 at 9:44 am to Brazos
on 10/13/19 at 9:44 am to BrazosWhat I don’t understand is the philosophy of only rushing 3 or 4 and not blitzing and stunting more.
With our offense being so good, why doesn’t the D take more chances with pressure?
Sure we may give up a few more big plays but the offense will make up for that. And more pressure would potentially create more turnovers this more chances for the O.
The first have defense made zero sense at all. Especially against an inexperienced and supposedly immobile QB
With our offense being so good, why doesn’t the D take more chances with pressure?
Sure we may give up a few more big plays but the offense will make up for that. And more pressure would potentially create more turnovers this more chances for the O.
The first have defense made zero sense at all. Especially against an inexperienced and supposedly immobile QB
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re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by ChenierauTigre on 10/13/19 at 9:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
on 10/13/19 at 9:45 am to RogerTheShrubberI am pleased with the second half defense. It is my belief that we should have brought pressure against their QB in the first half and gotten into his head. We let him stand there and pick us apart. His confidence grew. We should have had him running for his life and shitting his pants. But that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
Glad we made adjustments. It worked out well.
Glad we made adjustments. It worked out well.
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by RogerTheShrubber on 10/13/19 at 9:47 am to ShortyRob
on 10/13/19 at 9:47 am to ShortyRobquote:
Honestly, I've come to the conclusion this year that this isn't true.
Nah we played really soft and UF was grinding the clock and scoring, they were dictating the entire game. We got more aggressive in the second half and it helped win the game
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by ShortyRob on 10/13/19 at 9:48 am to memphis tiger
on 10/13/19 at 9:48 am to memphis tigerquote:
With our offense being so good, why doesn’t the D take more chances with pressure? Sure we may give up a few more big plays but the offense will make up for that. And more pressure would potentially create more turnovers this more chances for the O.
He is banking on the concept that it's harder to string 9 plays of mistake free football together than it is to string 3 together.
Yes. This means you give up some 9 play drives.
But, so far, it's also meant that eventually, you lay and egg, and our offense creates point space for the defense to then take a few chances.
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by easy money on 10/13/19 at 9:48 am to Brazos
on 10/13/19 at 9:48 am to BrazosAranda’s halftime adjustments:
1) Read the rant
2) ?
3) Profit
1) Read the rant
2) ?
3) Profit
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by easy money on 10/13/19 at 9:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
on 10/13/19 at 9:50 am to RogerTheShrubberNot really. If Stingley doesn’t make that pick, we might still be playing. We did bring more pressure and it created some 3rd and longs, but they converted and drove down the field on their last 2 drives still.
I think that’s exactly it Rob.
They were getting to third down quite a bit, which is inefficient and not sustainable.
Granted they converted a few of those third and long’s, but getting a team into third and long, with our secondary, is putting them in a position for success. Its up to the players to execute.
They were getting to third down quite a bit, which is inefficient and not sustainable.
Granted they converted a few of those third and long’s, but getting a team into third and long, with our secondary, is putting them in a position for success. Its up to the players to execute.
I disagree. Florida put up 460 yards and 28 first downs. The first downs stat is telling as it shows how they consistently moved the ball up and down the field.
Keep in mind, we were going up against a backup (that, in my opinion, is better than Franks) with a bum knee. Trask looked great out there.
When the third-strong backup QB went in, you knew he was going to run it. He got considerable yardage every time.
We had many successful blitzes that we'd over run or Trask would simply sidestep effortlessly to avoid.
We also missed many turnover opportunities. Point being, this defense brought a whole lot back this year. I think it's fair to say that we thought this would be an elite unit. They just aren't.
Sadly, looking at the roster (Chaisson, Phillips, Delpit, Queen, Stingley, Stevens, Fulton, etc.) I don't think it's a "lack-of-talent" issue...
Keep in mind, we were going up against a backup (that, in my opinion, is better than Franks) with a bum knee. Trask looked great out there.
When the third-strong backup QB went in, you knew he was going to run it. He got considerable yardage every time.
We had many successful blitzes that we'd over run or Trask would simply sidestep effortlessly to avoid.
We also missed many turnover opportunities. Point being, this defense brought a whole lot back this year. I think it's fair to say that we thought this would be an elite unit. They just aren't.
Sadly, looking at the roster (Chaisson, Phillips, Delpit, Queen, Stingley, Stevens, Fulton, etc.) I don't think it's a "lack-of-talent" issue...
This post was edited on 10/13 at 9:52 am
re: The crying about Aranda and the D is embarrassingPosted by ShortyRob on 10/13/19 at 9:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
on 10/13/19 at 9:51 am to RogerTheShrubberquote:I know. That's my point.
Nah we played really soft and UF was grinding the clock and scoring,
quote:Which, at this point, you pretty much have to acknowledge is the PLAN. I mean, we've only done it every game. At some point, you have to acknowledge that it's not an accident.
We got more aggressive in the second half and it helped win the game
It's the game we're playing. Hell, O is clearly in on it. I mean, he's watching the same thing.
I think they believe our offense will score fairly at will and don't want to give cheap points knowing that all we need is the other team to make a couple of mistakes to create point space.
So far, this is clearly our formula. Agree with or not, but it ain't like Aranda isn't pretty obviously planning it this way.
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