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Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:14 am to cypTiGer
It wasn’t because of that. It was because he picked up his foot to throw to 1st set his foot back down before he threw the ball. He also stumbled and opened up too much towards home plate on the move. Take your pick
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:15 am to PaperTiger
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What impressed me was that Beloso and Thompson were all over that call immediately. It's not a very well known rule.
I think the 1st base umpire called a balk before the pitcher threw that ball. When the pitcher realized that the 1st baseman wasn't on the bag he hesitated on the throw, which was also a balk.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:17 am to TigerintheNO
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I think the 1st base umpire called a balk before the pitcher threw that ball. When the pitcher realized that the 1st baseman wasn't on the bag he hesitated on the throw, which was also a balk.
Exactly. It had nothing to do with unoccupied base or 1st baseman not on the bag or whatever nonsense people are spouting.
It was a balk because the pitcher stumbled, set his foot down before the threw the ball, and opened up too much towards the plate.
Thompson also tipped his hand and showed bunt at the beginning of the at bat so not sure why people are saying Thompson never tipped either.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:34 am to The Boat
It was only after Thompson excitedly pointed out the balk to the home plate umpire that the umpire called it. The first base umpire called it right after Beloso called it.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:38 am to NS Who Dat Nation
quote:The fact the first baseman crashed toward home leaving first base undefended is what made it a balk.
to add to this, what made it an actual balk? His first move was to first base and he did throw it there. Was it the slight hesitation? or his foot coming down?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:42 am to The Boat
Exactly. It had nothing to do with unoccupied base or 1st baseman not on the bag or whatever nonsense people are spouting.
It had everything to do with unoccupied base. From the pitchers plate, when attempting a pick off, the throw must be to a base or it’s a balk. If you step to first, you must throw to first. Pitcher stepped to first and threw to first baseman who was not at first base. Thus the balk. I know I’ll catch flak, but I know what I’m talking about.
It had everything to do with unoccupied base. From the pitchers plate, when attempting a pick off, the throw must be to a base or it’s a balk. If you step to first, you must throw to first. Pitcher stepped to first and threw to first baseman who was not at first base. Thus the balk. I know I’ll catch flak, but I know what I’m talking about.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 11:46 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:46 am to RedShirt
A left handed pitcher can’t motion to 1st base and not throw the ball
He picked up his foot and set it down without throwing the ball. Which is a balk
He picked up his foot and set it down without throwing the ball. Which is a balk
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:47 am to dadof4grads
This is so wrong...every umpire called that ballk...even the third base ump had it
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:49 am to The Boat
He absolutely threw the ball. It has everything to do with where he threw it.
ETA: You can see it leave his hand even in the normal CF video and then see the ball in the first baseman’s hand when the camera cut to Beloso.
ETA: You can see it leave his hand even in the normal CF video and then see the ball in the first baseman’s hand when the camera cut to Beloso.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 11:50 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:50 am to The Boat
quote:You're also correct. But the undefended 1st base is also a balk.
A left handed pitcher can’t motion to 1st base and not throw the ball
He picked up his foot and set it down without throwing the ball. Which is a balk
It was a balk multiple ways lol
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:51 am to MOT
He didn’t throw the ball until he set his foot back down. Then stumbled with it. The balk happened before the throw happened. The throw to the 1st baseman in front of the bag would have been a balk on its own but the balk already happened before that.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:52 am to Fishhead
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You're also correct. But the undefended 1st base is also a balk.
It was a balk multiple ways lol
That’s what I’m saying. But the balk is the first balk worthy thing that happened. Which was his non throw move to 1st and stumble. Which people can’t seem to grasp.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:53 am to Chad504boy
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he didn't throw to unoccupied base.
Correct
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also, he can throw to an unoccupied base.
Incorrect. He cannot throw to an unoccupied base from the rubber.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:54 am to The Boat
quote:Thats what happens on every normal pickoff, pitchers don’t release the ball with their foot in the air
He didn’t throw the ball until he set his foot back down.
This one looked weird because he realized midstream he was screwing everything up, but the act of throwing wasn’t what caused it.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:54 am to MOT
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Thats what happens on every normal pickoff, pitchers don’t release the ball with their foot in the air
But it’s a seamless motion with no stops. He paused and stumbled before he threw
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 11:55 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:55 am to The Boat
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He didn’t throw the ball until he set his foot back down.
Wut?
That’s normal.
Mainieri’s on record saying the balk occurred because he threw to an unoccupied base. That’s what I’m going with.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 11:57 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:57 am to KC Tiger
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Incorrect. He cannot throw to an unoccupied base from the rubber.
sure he can. and it happens more than you’d think at high levels.
the ball goes off into the outfield and all runners take off and advance.
but it’s not a balk.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:58 am to The Boat
Yeah he definitely put his foot down prior to throwing to this 1st baseman standing right beside him lol.
What a fricked up play
What a fricked up play
Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:58 am to Nutriaitch
Dude...
"The pitcher shall be charged with a balk if, while in contact with the rubber, he throws to a fielder who is either in front of or behind first or third base and obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at that base"
"The pitcher shall be charged with a balk if, while in contact with the rubber, he throws to a fielder who is either in front of or behind first or third base and obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at that base"
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