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Posted on 6/8/21 at 11:59 am to 3rdPart Tiger
People need to stop using the phrase unoccupied base. An unoccupied base is a base with no runner on it. There was a runner on 1st.
It was a throw to a fielder not on a base.
But that doesn’t really matter because the balk already happened before he threw it.
It was a throw to a fielder not on a base.
But that doesn’t really matter because the balk already happened before he threw it.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:02 pm to The Boat
quote:
People need to stop using the phrase unoccupied base.
Just going off of what coach says.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:03 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
Coach is wrong in his use of the phrase unoccupied base
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:04 pm to Nutriaitch
quote:
sure he can. and it happens more than you’d think at high levels.
the ball goes off into the outfield and all runners take off and advance.
but it’s not a balk.
You are confused as to what an "unoccupied base" means. It references the presence of a runner, not a defender.
It has nothing to do with a defensive player defending that base.
If a pitcher throws to an unoccupied base (i.e. no runner) from the rubber (defended or not) it is a balk.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:04 pm to Fishhead
quote:
Dude...
"The pitcher shall be charged with a balk if, while in contact with the rubber, he throws to a fielder who is either in front of or behind first or third base and obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at that base"
yeah, that’s throwing to the player, not the base.
had he thrown it at the bag and no one was home, it’s not a balk.
it goes down as an error and everyone gets on the merry go around and advances as far as they can.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:04 pm to KC Tiger
quote:INcorrect
he didn't throw to unoccupied base.
Correct
First baseman was well in front of the bag.
"The pitcher shall be charged with a balk if, while in contact with the rubber, he throws to a fielder who is either in front of or behind first or third base and obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at that base"
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:05 pm to KC Tiger
quote:
You are confused as to what an "unoccupied base" means. It references the presents of a runner,
yep.
i had that part backwards.
my bad.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:05 pm to Fishhead
quote:
INcorrect
First baseman was well in front of the bag.
"The pitcher shall be charged with a balk if, while in contact with the rubber, he throws to a fielder who is either in front of or behind first or third base and obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at that base"
Brosef that’s not what an unoccupied base is
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:06 pm to Nutriaitch
I'll buy that, but he threw it to the player. Fricked it up every way possible, Tiger's win Tigers win
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:06 pm to The Boat
Undefended
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:07 pm to Fishhead
Obviously the base was occupied by Beloso
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:08 pm to Fishhead
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Fishhead
I'm not trying to demean you, but you should really read and understand the rules of baseball before you post on here. First base was occupied. Period. Hard Stop. Anybody who says first base was unoccupied doesn't understand the rules. That is not why it was a balk.
It was a balk because the pitcher DID NOT THROW TO AN OCCUPIED BASE. He threw it half-way up the line. The balk had nothing to do with the base being occupied (because it was).
A defender cannot occupy a base. Only a runner can occupy a base.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:09 pm to KC Tiger
quote:
It was a balk because the pitcher DID NOT THROW TO AN OCCUPIED BASE. He threw it half-way up the line.
It was also a balk because motioned to 1st, paused, stumbled, and opened up too much to the plate before he threw it.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:18 pm to Topwater Trout
The pitcher shall be charged with a balk if, while in contact with the rubber, he throws to a fielder who is either in front of or behind first or third base and obviously not making an attempt at retiring the runner at that base. However, there is no violation if the pitcher throws the ball directly to first or third base in this situation.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:24 pm to The Boat
Just re-watched it...there was no stumble
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:27 pm to geauxpurple
quote:
I felt we had that pitched psyched out when he kept throwing to 1st while the runner was standing on it.
He was never more than two steps off the base. Obviously he wasn't running, but the pitcher kept tossing it over there. At that point, I figured they were trying to give the Bullpen time to get someone warm...or the pitchers head was fricked and he didn't want to throw it to the plate.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:30 pm to mtntiger
Pitchers don’t get a ton of reps practicing 1st and 3rds and bunt defense while the infielders can do it in their sleep. The pitcher probably forgot the play was on and was trying to see if Thompson would show bunt if he picked up his leg like he did 1000x before that.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:31 pm to KC Tiger
quote:I assumed y'all were saying "occupied" meaning defended.
KC Tiger
Obviously the base was occupied, but it was no longer defended, which is a balk.
I don't need to read and understand the rule. I literally quoted it.
I just thought y'all were calling undefended unoccupied.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:33 pm to mtntiger
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