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re: The answer to why there will not be a playoff in college football

Posted on 1/25/11 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by Guava Jelly
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 4:45 pm to
Thanks for the new info, brah.
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 4:45 pm to
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Why not add two games to the BCS system, perhaps the Cotton and Cap One,


why do people always suggest adding our bowls to the BCS? This would screw the SEC out of quality bowl game tie-ins.
This post was edited on 1/25/11 at 4:47 pm
Posted by bradwieser
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 4:47 pm to
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Currently there are 4 BCS bowls with 8 teams playing in those bowls.

So if those 8 teams played a playoff it would be like adding 3 more BCS bowls. This equals more money.





the tv ratings would be astronomical for all the games.


yeah, the games would actually mean something.
Posted by COF
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 4:54 pm to
I guess we are all happy USC claims a part of 2003.

We need a playoff.

Bad.

If not for money, for the sport of it all. Why does every other sport claim an NCAA champion and NCAAF does not? They call it a BCS champion.

Everybody talks about other confrences strenth of schedule. We would eleminate that conversation with a playoff.

Who here is opposed to a playoff?

Posted by tigerinridgeland
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 5:59 pm to
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Currently there are 4 BCS bowls with 8 teams playing in those bowls.

So if those 8 teams played a playoff it would be like adding 3 more BCS bowls. This equals more money.

the tv ratings would be astronomical for all the games.


More money for whom? That is the key question for the BCS conferences.

A playoff system with at least 11 conferences splitting the money (at least 11 Div. 1 conferences that will want in the playoffs: WAC, MWC,CUSA, Sunbelt, MAC, ACC, BE, SEC, Big 10, Pac 12, Big 12-2) will not be attractive the the 6 BCS conferences.

Some think simply adding 3 games to the season will not impact the regular season, but I think that is unrealistic. There is no way university presidents will add three more games (making the season up to 16 games for the championship game teams). Remember, in theory, these are college students who are not getting paid. Would you as a rational college football player want to add three extra games for essentially nothing but added risks of injury that might end a potentially lucrative professional career? Remember these players are also full-time students. It is very different from the pros. The options for a playoff (at least beyond a plus one) are not very attractive to the BCS conferences. They aren't likely to get more money because of likely shorter regular season and the loss of millions in revenue for each regular season home game they would have to give up. And you can be pretty much guaranteed that the playoffs would not generate enough to compensate the LSUs, Alabamas, etc. for the $3 million or more for each home game they might lose.
This post was edited on 1/25/11 at 6:04 pm
Posted by COF
Knoxville, TN
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 6:27 pm to
Basketball student athletes sure have time....

And they play two games a week for the NCAA championship.

That is not a good argument.

Posted by COF
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 6:52 pm to
The point I am trying to get through is there is no reason for a BCS system that can't be overcome. No reason.

It's not even the money. Schools don't benefit from bowl games. Florida took home $47.000 from the 2009 BCS National Championship. You wanna know what the payout was?

17.5 Million.

Between Coaches bonuses ($960,000)
Travel Costs (190,000)
Tickets (320,000)
Band and Cheer team (190,000)

The total for that and entertainment reqired by the venue equals 2.42 Million.

What anout the 14 sum odd million more?

The CONFRENCE gets this payout.

They divide it up into 13 ways. All schools get money then one extra piece gos to the Office.

Do the math. Thats $49,000.

Research the facts. A football season is a terrible thing to waste.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 7:00 pm to
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That's exactly right, which is why there could be more money made with a playoff.

More games = more money.


I don't understand why people can't get this. Games played in a playoff system will draw more $$$.
Posted by HeadCoach
Shady's Parking Lot
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 7:14 pm to
U mean it's about money? Get the fuk outta here... seriously.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 7:30 pm to
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The answer to why there will not be a playoff in college football


Answer: Because Big Ten Commissioner, Jim Delaney, is a giant douche!
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 9:02 pm to
Re basketball and football

Why do you think that the pro football regular season is only 16 games? There is no equivalence between the two sports at all. It is not just about class time, but wear and tear.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 9:05 pm to
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Do you know how much money Florida brought home from The 2009 BCS NCG?

$49,000.


Yeah, and we lost money when we had to go out to Arizona. Now, we make more than enough with the SEC TV deal and our own deal with SunSports, but the schools, especially SEC schools, aren't making a whole lot from bowl games.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7708 posts
Posted on 1/25/11 at 9:16 pm to
University presidents are not going to extend the season by simply adding a playoff of three games. Not gonna happen. The physical demands on players who are not full time atnletes aren't justified by it. And they are unlikely to shorten the regular season because the big schools make too much income on the games they would have to give up.

If the economics supported a playoff, why aren't all those money grubbing ADs at the big schools jumping on it. It's because they know they will get less money with a short regular season, and they know the presidents are dead set against a longer season.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 9:23 pm to
Tiger1984:
It's more about who gets the money. The big schools understand they will net less money because they will take a smaller share than they do now. More schools will share the money and the increased total, if any, will not likely make up the difference.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 6:47 am to
I think the only logical answer to why there will not be a playoff is that people do not like change in general. All the other answers point to why we should have a playoff.
Posted by WI_Tiger
Milwaukee,WI
Member since Aug 2004
195 posts
Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:04 am to
if you havent read it yet, everyone should read the book "Death to the BCS".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:17 am to
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If you're going to scrap the BCS, SCRAP THE BCS.

you have to use something

there aren't 4, 8, or (puke) 16 conferences

and using conference champs is stupid as hell anyway

quote:

I like this, except I would NOT take "at large" selections as wildcard teams, I would take the two best NON_AQ conference champions.

if they're not the best remaining 2 teams, then why?

quote:

That way it doesn't minimize the achievement of a conference championship.

winning a shite conference is winning a shite confernece
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:18 am to
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the tv ratings would be astronomical for all the games.

and the rich would get richer while the non-BCS conferences would get less money
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:18 am to
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If not for money, for the sport of it all. Why does every other sport claim an NCAA champion and NCAAF does not? They call it a BCS champion.

the only way the NCAA will recognize the title is if every D1A conference gets a playoff birth

so, in short, the NCAA ain't recognizing a CFB champ for a long time. 16 teams is a horrible idea and a long fricking way off
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/26/11 at 8:19 am to
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Games played in a playoff system will draw more $$$.

and how do you split that money up?
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