re: The $10 million buyout number is extremely misleading...

Bump since some people apparently still think we have to write one $10 million check.

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It sounds like a massive, one-time check that LSU would have to cut at the beginning of March

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I would say that to let him go you need to be able to commit the full amount at the time of termination, regardless of when you pay it off.

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That 10 million figure is the absolute max ceiling if every single one of those coaches stayed unemployed until 2029, which basically never happens in college sports

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Yeah, they will all have new jobs before the 2027-2028 season. McMahon probably will not have a job that pays anywhere close to his buyout though. The example of 500k seems like a reasonable amount to assume, but probably a little bit more.

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The current administration and decision makers absolutely care about the brand LSU has created and the basketball program is only damaging that brand.

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Rousse and Mallet are quite fond of the Gangsta Pear.

They'll give it a shot and see if they can pry him away from NC State.

Big $$$$ people will materialize if Wade is the Target........

It's pretty embarrassing how he tanked 2 money sport hires and left us with massive issues because of those contracts.

That 10 million figure is the absolute max ceiling if every single one of those coaches stayed unemployed until 2029, which basically never happens in college sports. It is still expensive, but it is a manageable monthly expense that gets cheaper every time one of them gets a new gig. It is not the massive haul that some are

Add in 3-8 million for buyouts of new coaches..

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McMahon is about to turn 48. He will find another job.

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With his previous track record at Murray, he will get another low or mid major job without issue. It won’t offset a ton, but it will be something.

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This is why most of you on here are broke. Mens BB has a balance sheet. One charge is to pay coaches. So now you want to pay a new coach to really coach and one not to do anything.

This is like buying a new house with a mortgage and still paying the old mortgage or buying the new car and rolling the debt owed onto the new note.

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A lot of people also go broke by continuing to throw more money into bad investments. That is what McMahon is for LSU and anyone who invests in his program. That investment doesn't produce any ROI. McMahon is a sunk cost. Either you pay him, and a staff, and new players (with some morons suggesting LSU give MM MORE money for new players/staff) to get the same bad, or at very best, mediocre results, or you cut your losses now and try to make the program successful with a new HC.

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What concerns me is that LSU seems to be hesitating for financial reasons which means they boosters are not firmly behind it or the program.

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Then you are going to ask those same booster to pony up an even bigger sum for players? Unless LSU plans on just riding this thing out to the end with full intentions of being last in the SEC for the next three seasons, then there is no logical reason to keep kicking this can down the road while coaching salaries and the NIL market will only continue to inflate. This year's $8M roster is going to cost you $9.5M next season, and prob $12M in 3 years. The cost of doing business isn't going down. So it would behoove the AD to try to increase the profit basketball makes. That's not going to happen with McMahon. Attendance is minimal. More and more people are cancelling their seasons tickets. LSU is not a draw, at all, to any of these big neutral site made-for-TV events...which can be very profitable for the teams that participate

I think the biggest thing is you have a lot of basketball-ignorant folks who look at this through a football prism. LSU DOES NOT have to make a Lane Kiffin type hire in terms of expense to be successful in basketball. A school can hire a mid-major coach and have immediate success, like Florida, or Alabama, or Vanderbilt, or even LSU in 2018.

Golden and Oats were not wildly expensive "big fish" when they were hired. Neither was Wade. To move things more recent, look at schools like Miami and Texas A&M. Both have first year coaches who they hired on inexpensive contracts (relatively speaking), and who inherited rosters with 0 returning scholarship players. Both are in line for NCAA Tournament bids. That's not the ultimate level of success each program wants to achieve. But it shows a mid-major hire (or even a major conf. assistant coach hire like Miami made) can turn around a program quickly.

Continuing on with a league worst coach simply to "save" what will come out to the equivalent of a couple of million dollars for 1-2 years is stupid. Even if the buyout money increases the NIL funds available, you take it. A good HC with a mid-tier NIL budget would be FAR better than MM with an even bigger budget. Simply look at Kentucky vs Texas A&M. Kentucky's HC is paid ~$5.5M per year. They (purportedly) have a $20M roster this season. On the other hand, A&M's HC is paid $2.5M less than UK's coach and A&M has a FAR less expensive roster. The result? A&M and UK have basically the same record.

There is ZERO logical justification for retaining McMahon after this season. None! (Now cue tigerbb coming in wanted to fight everyone on the board who are being meanies to McMahon)

Incredible to think we have to pay millions to get rid of McMahon.

Solid point but what about the increase in roster budget necessary to get any decent coach to come to LSU? Or the increase in coach and staff salaries to lure a decent coach to LSU? Or the increased staffing necessary to put a winning team on the court even with a new coaching staff and increased roster budget? Or those staff stragglers that stay on but do nothing like Taz or the blonde who worked WW's office? It adds up and, while not a ton relative to football, it is, I think, more than LSU is willing to swallow this year. There also remains the question of who will want this job given the lack of support for the program and, if someone wants it, at what premium salary? I am also ready for a change. I was ready last year but didn't think it would happen. I still don't.

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Solid point but what about the increase in roster budget necessary to get any decent coach to come to LSU?

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A $3.5M (annual) salary and $8M NIL is a HUGE increase for a coach at a mid-major school making $950k with a $1.5M NIL budget. THIS IS NOT FOOTBALL. A school like LSU doesn't have to hire a coach away from another power conf. program to have success.

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Or the increased staffing necessary to put a winning team on the court even with a new coaching staff and increased roster budget?

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What increase in staffing?

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There also remains the question of who will want this job given the lack of support for the program and, if someone wants it, at what premium salary?

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A LOT of guys currently at mid-major schools would happily take an SEC job. Mark Byington (Vandy's coach) was making about $825k at JMU when he was hired by Vanderbilt who, at that time had been one of the worst programs in the SEC for multiple years.