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re: tGeneral tPear
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:32 am to Riverside
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:32 am to Riverside
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How does one cheat in the NIL era?
what Wade (allegedly) did was and still is completely against NCAA rules.
"everybody was and still is doing it!"
correct, but those guy don't leave a fricking paper trail leading investigators right to their front door.
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:33 am to Geaux62
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Has anyone ever questioned whether or not the General wants to come back? Even if asked?
He 100% would
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:39 am to IntenseKid
If Wade comes back, it will be without Scott. And that may be a possibility now.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:52 am to BallChamp00
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If Wade comes back, it will be without Scott. And that may be a possibility now.
Wade's axe to grind isn't with Scott, it's with Tate. Firing Wade was 100% Tate's decision
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:57 am to tygerphan
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with the fact this is NEVER going to happen
Wade would be a fool to ever come back to LSU and I'm convinced he is no fool.
Why would he come back to a place where 40% o the fans didn't appreciate him when he was taking us to the tourney every year. Eighty percent sided with Fat Woody when a change was made.
Wade, at LSU and at McNeese, does not need Woody nor LSU to be successful.
He has been successful at every stop.
It's LSU and fans that need help, not Wade.;
Dumb decisions have consequences.
Enjoy Mulkey while you have her. She will probably retire in a couple of years.
Batter up! We still have Baseball.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 7:58 am to ForeverLSU5
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Wade's axe to grind isn't with Scott, it's with Tate. Firing Wade was 100% Tate's decision
It was a multitude of factors. Mainly NCAA and Scott. Saving face for football.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:18 am to mdomingue
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Two points here, the first is he did not pay a player out of his account, he paid a former player's ex out of his wife's account,
The ex player was at his previous school and was not LSU related
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The issue isn't that Wade cheated like every other coach did at the time (which is an accurate statement) it is that he was sloppy about it and that he did it while under a microscope after he signed a document stating that no allegations would come out that LSU was not already aware o
He wasn't sloppy. He had the misfortune of coordinating recruiting through a contact who was unfortunately under FBI surveillance and their conversation was recorded. The story got picked up by Sports Illustrated and it became front page news. This did not occur while he was under a microscope it caused the microscope. There were no allegations of violations after that story broke in 2019. In fact to this day Wade has not been convicted of a single NCAA violation.
I am not advocating for his return, its absurd to think this would occur and its way past time to stop the daily barrage of comments about him returning. I agree that whatever violations he actually committed were no greater than the violations of the coaches he was competing with for recruits. But, again , strong arse offer comments are just that, comments and not convictions of violations.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 8:29 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:32 am to tigersbb
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Two points here, the first is he did not pay a player out of his account, he paid a former player's ex out of his wife's account,
The ex player was at his previous school and was not LS related
Correct, but I think he was at LSU when the payment occurred.
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He wasn't sloppy. He had the misfortune of coordinating recruiting through a contact who was unfortunately under FBI surveillance and their conversation was recorded.
That is the sloppy part (along with the check from his Wife's account). My recollection (and that is always suspect these days: lol:) is all the other people implicated had assistants or bagmen talking to that guy.
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The story got picked up by Sports Illustrated and it became front page news. This did not occur while he was under a microscope it caused the microscope. There were no allegations of violations after that story broke in 2019.
Again, I am going by my own admittedly flawed recollection that the check payment occurred after the recording came out, but I could be wrong.
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In fact to this day Wade has not been convicted of a single NCAA violation.
He had a show cause against him; he had to sit out part of his first McNeese season as a result. I suspect had he been employed in 2022-23 he would have had to sit out much, maybe all of the season. But that is and can only ever be speculation.
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I am not advocating for his return, its absurd to think this would occur and its way past time to stop the daily barrage of comments about him returning. I agree that whatever violations he actually committed were no greater than the violations of the coaches he was competing with for recruits. But, again , strong arse offer comments are just that, comments ande not convictions of violations.
I would not mind his return, but I do not expect it. I also understand a bit of, maybe even most of, the continuous comments about him coming back are frustration by fans. But it does get tiring at times
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:44 am to tigersbb
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In fact to this day Wade has not been convicted of a single NCAA violation.
Um, he was given a 2 year show cause by the NCAA and he was suspended for the first 10 games of his first year at McNeese because of it. He was found to have committed 3 Level 1 violations by the infractions committee. So yes, he has absolutely been "convicted" of NCAA violations
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He wasn't sloppy.
Yes, he was
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 8:45 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:57 am to IntenseKid
Just stop caring about basketball. Its way easier.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:02 am to lsufball19
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Um, he was given a 2 year show cause by the NCAA and he was suspended for the first 10 games of his first year at McNeese because of it. He was found to have committed 3 Level 1 violations by the infractions committee. So yes, he has absolutely been "convicted" of NCAA violations
Please advise those three violations he was convicted of .............
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:04 am to IntenseKid
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Whoever the next guy is has to have some personality.
Absolutely, thst is how you win games, personality
Posted on 2/6/25 at 11:04 am to lsufball19
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Please advise those three violations he was convicted of .............
here's the entire ruling from the committee
LINK
Feel free to read through all of their findings, and you will find the answers to all of your questions
Here are the alleged violations. The only one involving a player was not an LSU recruit, the rest are process violations, but no reference to a specific violation while recruiting a player. NO LSU RECRUIT WAS CITED IN ANY VIOLATIONS, STRONG arse OFFER BE DAMNED.
(2) Men’s Basketball Program.
(a) Former head men's basketball coach acted unethically when he made payment to former fiancée and failed to report former fiancée’s allegations and threats, which the hearing panel finds to be a Level I violation. [Allegation No. 5]
(b) Former men's basketball student-athlete at NCAA Division I Institution A acted as an impermissible recruiter, which the hearing panel finds to be a Level II violation. [Allegation No. 7]
(c) Former head men's basketball coach and former assistant men's basketball coach No. 1 had impermissible contact with parents of men’s basketball student-athlete No. 3, which the hearing panel finds to be a Level III violation. [Allegation No. 8]
(d) Former head men's basketball coach failed to timely produce records to the NCAA enforcement staff and the Complex Case Unit and provided false or misleading information to the Complex Case Unit, which the hearing panel finds to be a Level I violation. [Allegation No. 9]
Louisiana State University – Case No. 00909
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(e) Former head men's basketball coach failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance, which the hearing panel finds to be a Level I violation. [Allegation No. 10]
(f) LSU failed to monitor the activities of individuals recruiting on behalf of LSU in its men’s basketball program, which the hearing panel finds to be a Level II violation. [Allegation No. 11]
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 11:16 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 1:00 pm to tigersbb
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tigersbb
This was your post
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In fact to this day Wade has not been convicted of a single NCAA violation.
That is an objectively false statement. You just listed NCAA violations he was "convicted" of in your most recent post. You do realize that don't you?
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 2/6/25 at 1:47 pm to tigersbb
Language violations, just look at the wording. Failure to present cooperative atmosphere. Failure to report a potential violation. It’s ridiculous. I believe it was USA Today who had the article explaining how the NCAA wasted a ton of money, finding nothing in the Wade situation.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:41 pm to Madking
The "findings" against Will Wade turned out to be an absolute joke. It's wild how ignorant people are to this fact. He received/accepted a minor slap on the wrist so people could save a tiny bit of face and everyone has moved on. No one is going to avoid hiring Wade based on the NCAA stuff. That's over.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:54 pm to LSUFanMizeWay
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Open Search, don’t hire an idiot who screams “Look at Me I’m Cheating “
Vs, Look at me I'm Losing.
How much are Ohio State, Oregon and others paying for players.
You say its now "Legal"
How long have they been paying players?
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:00 pm to covtgr
quote:That’s not going to stop them from repeating it over and over.
The "findings" against Will Wade turned out to be an absolute joke. It's wild how ignorant people are to this fact. He received/accepted a minor slap on the wrist so people could save a tiny bit of face and everyone has moved on. No one is going to avoid hiring Wade based on the NCAA stuff. That's over.
At some point, It’s no longer ignorance, but instead being intentionally obtuse.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 6:00 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
I'm generally an LSU fan, but I graduated from McNeese. Let's see which men's team would win. I'd bet on "McLoser."
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