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re: Teachers losing jobs and coaches getting raises??????????

Posted on 1/21/10 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 12:02 pm to
Most people don't understand the real issue. We could shut down our athletic department and still face budget cuts at LSU. One has little to do with the other.

The state needs to revamp the entire budget system so education and health don't get the axe every time we have shortfalls. Everything else is protected from cuts.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 12:32 pm to
Teachers don't pack in 90k to watch a math class or poetry reading. suck it up! Work year round.
Posted by schmuble
Marshall, MN
Member since May 2008
196 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 12:38 pm to
i don't begrudge the athletics department their money, but if you think most college professors don't work year round (and at a much higher rate than 40 hours per week), you don't know a damn thing about college professors.
Posted by schmuble
Marshall, MN
Member since May 2008
196 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 12:39 pm to
and the same goes for educators at lower levels.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29343 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

but if you think most college professors don't work year round (and at a much higher rate than 40 hours per week), you don't know a damn thing about college professors.


Name one "professional" occupation where people don't work more than 40 hours per week.

Attorneys? More
Medical Doctors? More
Accountants? More
etc
etc
etc

Welcome to modern society.
Posted by Klaus
Del Boca Vista
Member since Sep 2008
4507 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Klaus,

Since you've made this bold statement of fact, please tell me, without looking on the internet for answers, in your opinion, what is a fair salary for the following:

-an assistant professor in the 6th year of teaching with a Doctorate degree
-international recognition in their field and continued international presence in the field
-multiple years of unpaid service to their university, deparment, college, and community through various committees, recruiting, community initiatives and outreach
-a track record of success in student job placement

Also, what do you think the current starting salary is for an assistant professor with a terminal degree?






Get over it nerd.
Posted by hobo with a rolex
everywhere
Member since Sep 2006
3203 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 1:26 pm to
blaming the LSU athletic department or the gov. for this problem is ignorant and childish

a large portion of the states budget is untouchable like Eliott Ness

Posted by CWilken21
Gnawlins
Member since Mar 2005
3887 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:03 pm to
According to the USAToday, LSU and Nebraska are the only two athletic departments in the nation not spending student fees or university subsidies. Also, not a single penny of taxpayer money goes into the LSU athletic department budget.
Posted by nola504
Member since Jan 2010
132 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:09 pm to
Many of the athletic programs don't spend student fees. LSU and Nebraska dont spend subsidies.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

We could shut down our athletic department and still face budget cuts at LSU.


We'd actually face MORE cuts since the Ath. Department GIVES money to the university in the form of astronomical auxiliary fees, $1 ticket surcharge, TAF scholarships (remember the Cox Building was renovated with TAF $$), oh and while their at it...they usually throw in 1-5 million annually to the general fund.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56485 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

The people of Louisiana deserve better


Telling quote,

We clamor for a better football team, that is what is addressed.

We dont urge and post hate mail because our English lit scores are slipping.

Hell, we love average teachers. But a 9-4 football coach we want run out of town.

We are getting exactly what we deserve.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

The football program pays for itself unlike instructors. Different situation.


But, ummm, there'd be no football team w/o a university, which, by definition, is an institution of higher learning, not an excuse to have a sports program.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

Although you clearly are misinformed and more than likely a complete idiot......LSU's athletic program does not accept public funds and is completely self sufficient. The coaches raises in salaries has absolutely no impact on these teachers.


/thread
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45196 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

Where is $300,000 of Les' salary coming from.....tax money!


When the University takes zero dollars from the athletic dept. then you can make this arguement.

But at the moment the university gets 7 million a year from athletics so in reality the athletic dept is paying the entire salary.

So we can do two things here. One you can shut the frick up, or the University gets zero dollars from athletics and then you can bitch your little whiney arse off.
Posted by lsuougel
lafayette
Member since Nov 2008
3136 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 5:45 pm to


end thread
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

They are overpaid as it is




Klaus,

Since you've made this bold statement of fact, please tell me, without looking on the internet for answers, in your opinion, what is a fair salary for the following:

-an assistant professor in the 6th year of teaching with a Doctorate degree
-international recognition in their field and continued international presence in the field
-multiple years of unpaid service to their university, deparment, college, and community through various committees, recruiting, community initiatives and outreach
-a track record of success in student job placement

Also, what do you think the current starting salary is for an assistant professor with a terminal degree?



How many hours are spent in the classroom by the professors? I read an article that being a college professor was one of the best jobs in the world.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:11 pm to
The whole wafb story is crazy. How many people in this thread were at the faculty senate meeting? how many in this thread talked to the people directly involved in the Save LSU campaign.

The person in charge giving the speech at the faculty senate I dont think even mentioned football or coaches salary. Off the record, in one small interview they talk to an english instructor in the hallway before the meeting and got that qoute about coaches salary.

Most of the discussion at the faculty senate was not favorable towards Jindal. Not much if anything was mentioned that actually occurred at the faculty senate meeting. Poor reporting if you ask me.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36155 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:14 pm to
the football program is self sufficent, the teachers pay comes from the state, get over it, has been like this for decades....
Posted by nola504
Member since Jan 2010
132 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:19 pm to
I think people are quick to mention the athletic program just to point the finger rather than address the actual issue. Giving the coaches a pay cut will not solve anything. The university needs to increase tuition because it won't be getting more money from the state anytime soon. If the university increased tution by say $1500. With 25,000 students that would bring in an extra $37 million a year. Kids go there and receive a service. They should have to contribute to it.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:39 pm to
I think it was just an uniformed person spouting off. Most everyone would look for facts before talking in front of news camera.

the Save LSU goal is unified and are addressing the issues.
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