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re: Take a deep breath and give me your most logical review of BK's tenure so far

Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:57 am to
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11605 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:57 am to
What I dislike the most so far is that it seems that each of his teams need about 3 to 4 games under their belt before they finally figure themselves out. That’s just not gonna cut it the way things are right now.
Posted by Arthur Bach
Member since Jul 2016
2622 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:58 am to
Kelly ain’t it, but we’re stuck with him. Sucks.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
24440 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:58 am to
How can Baker build such an elite defense at Mizzou, and struggle to have the defense prepared at LSU? I know he needs some time, but that doesn’t make it less frustrating.
Posted by Old Katy Tiger
Texas
Member since Nov 2021
119 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:58 am to
He gives more coherent press conferences than the two predecessors, but enough with all the excuses and saying they have to coach better. That’s wearing thin. Either do better or start looking for an exit strategy.

It also wouldn’t have hurt to have upgraded the OC when he had the chance last year. Erratic hiring decisions seem to be a theme.
Posted by Brotorious
NOLA
Member since May 2013
414 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:58 am to
He’s building a great program. When has there been a problem and not address it?

The recruiting classes will start to stack and depth will be a strength and not a weakness. What we have is growing. There are plays to be made on the field offensively and defensively…and they are not always made.

The immediate gratification and sky is falling folks really miss out on the ride and fail to see the many good things happening at the present moment.





This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
6694 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:00 pm to
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sageTake a deep breath and give me your most logical review of BK's tenure so far


He stopped the bleeding and stabilized the program after O stopped working when the clock hit zero in the National championship game.

I think he was probably the best person available to do that.

But it’s looking more and more like he can’t get the program over the next hump and turn them into title contenders

Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
13964 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Letting Raymond walk was stupid

I would argue that Raymond needed a wake up call. Not like he set the world on fire at Florida.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58947 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:01 pm to
Without giving all the subjective subterfuge, he’s been what he’s always been. Beats the teams he’s supposed to, doesn’t beat the upper crust teams,
Posted by TB69
Member since Oct 2008
328 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:01 pm to
Lack of recruiting at D line and in the secondary. New coordinator D still sucks. You have one nfl player on defense. You have talent on offense but the online is soft from 2 years of zone blocking and a running qb. 3 years in we should not be a 9-3 team. He finally has some guys on the D staff who can recruit. 25 class has some talent. But realistically your looking at 2 years before you see it. So maybe 5 years in we will be where we need to be. Only question is can Kelly win the big one. Jury is out on that.
Posted by p226
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2016
1557 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:02 pm to
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He’s building a great program. When has there been a problem and not address it?


DUDE! Open your damn eyes! Right. NOW!

Defense was a problem last year — it’s not addressed. Special Teams was a problem last year — it’s not addressed. OC left last year — didn’t address that.

The process of preparing a team to play a game at high level has been a problem every year he’s been at LSU - still not addressed.
Posted by Bayoubengal205
Member since Nov 2016
1091 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:03 pm to
At this point, it looks to me like Brian Kelly just ain’t built for the SEC. He is showing a pattern of NOT having this team mentally prepared to play SEC ball.
LSU has shown a trend of starting games soft and lackadaisical. Causing them to get man handled at the line of scrimmage (on both sides) and to get behind on the scoreboard early.
I will admit, they obviously have the ability to be mentally tough by the way they fight back.
But the LSU I remember and fell in love with was mentally tough and fought like tigers FROM THE FIRST KICK!!!
Blown assignments on defense, or failed blocks on offense happen on every team. But in the SEC, you have to have swagger and mental toughness and even a bit of attitude RIGHT OUT THE GATE to be successful.
And Brian Kelly is starting to prove himself incapable of having his team in that mindset.
HE. IS. SOFT.
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3793 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

He’s building a great program. When has there been a problem and not address it? The recruiting classes will start to stack and depth will be a strength and not a weakness. What we have is growing. There are plays to be Mede on field offensively and defensively…and they are not always made. The immediate gratification and sky is falling folks really miss out on the ride and fail to see the many good things happening at the present moment.


Amen.

My only critique of Kelly is he seems to go out of his way to handicap himself and the program at times by sticking to the process without any room for pragmatism.

The positive things going on in the present you mention are great, but they’re only great as long as people are willing to be patient. And it’s not human nature to be patient. He has taken the long road through his own doing at time with things like using NIL in the portal.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58947 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:05 pm to
Not just last year, the year before as well. The bright spots we’ve had defensively this season have come when Baker shows exotic looks and takes chances. We’re running the same skeletal structure we’ve run since Kelly’s been here on both sides of the ball so we can change all the coordinators we want but it’s not going to make the big difference fans are expecting.
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
3220 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:05 pm to
The take away is that there more teams in our conference that would trade for CBKs W/L record than those that would not. We are winning way more than we are losing-in the SEC where it counts.

For now, I say we are indeed winning without an elite core. But we have many elite players. A few more on defense and life will be good,….consistently.

He is putting together recruiting classes that will afford a very talented core and moving away from bringing in so many transfers. You will lose some players every year doing it this way but you will regardless. Just load up and develop the best ones. I like it.
Posted by OU812
Eaton Rapids, Michigan
Member since Apr 2004
13183 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:08 pm to
I said give BK 4 full years of recruiting classes and development. Still trying to be patient based on what that POS coach before him left.
Posted by Sherlock Holmes II
Member since Jun 2024
122 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:09 pm to
He is a solid coach who will guarantee you 9 or 10 wins a year, but he is not that upper echelon like he is paid.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84096 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:10 pm to
IMHO , he’s a good steward of your program, very process- oriented and professional, flexible, hardworking, knows football. I just don’t think he’s more than average at motivating and preparing a team, particularly early in a season. I’d love to see him be the GOAT at LSU. 3 seasons in he seems like a worthy but underwhelming place holder.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted by OJsLifeCoach
NYC
Member since Aug 2023
2393 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:12 pm to
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OC left last year — didn’t address that.


I think this is complicated.

If you bring in an outside hire to replace Denbrock, how does that rub Sloan and Hankton?

Specifically Sloan, we can't afford to lose right now. He seems to have been a huuuge part in JD's development and he may be the main reason Bryce is committed. I think we kinda had no choice but to promote him given the circumstances.
Posted by Brotorious
NOLA
Member since May 2013
414 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:15 pm to
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DUDE! Open your damn eyes! Right. NOW!


DUDE, open your eyes! Or get glasses. You reveal too much about your lack of a football IQ. You and your kind do not know what you’re talking about.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted by leylee
Member since Oct 2018
191 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:21 pm to
He's hard to judge. Winning the West in year one then having a heisman trophy winner also having a legendary recruiting class lined up are amazing accolades.
However, not deferring, leaving points on the field in close losses, atrocious tackling, pre-snap penalties, the lack of basic outside run plays and not using HP7 properly all fall on coach.
He's a solid A- (91)but we need him to be an A(95)
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