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T. Hurd vs T. Floyd
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:07 pm
Are Hurd and Floyd basically 2a and 2b now?
Hurd has looked amazing his last couple of outings.
Hurd has looked amazing his last couple of outings.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:09 pm to Tiltinallin
Them back-to-back is filthy. The plan moving forward is probably Skenes-Guidry close it out. Floyd x Hurd. Then game 3 a barrage of LHP.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:10 pm to Tiltinallin
Floyd is still 2. Hurd 3. We basically treated Game 2 as two separate games. I don't think Hurd comes out of the pen under normal circumstances.
I did think it was kind of interesting that we were able to hold all of our lefties for game 3 (and potentially 4).
I did think it was kind of interesting that we were able to hold all of our lefties for game 3 (and potentially 4).
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:12 pm to Tiltinallin
If they can consistently throw strikes, we have a legit rotation that can get us through Omaha.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:13 pm to ProjectP2294
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I don't think Hurd comes out of the pen under normal circumstances.
I really want to believe this, because we need 3 starting pitchers if we want to win the CWS... but Hurd was getting loose when Skenes was running into a bit of trouble in the 8th on Friday.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:13 pm to TigerMonkey7
I was more looking at potential CWS starters (I know I know get past UK first).
Especially if we don't start 2-0 in Omaha.
Skenes/Floyd/Hurd are three solid starters. Wondering if Jay keeps him as a relief or moves to starter for CWS
Especially if we don't start 2-0 in Omaha.
Skenes/Floyd/Hurd are three solid starters. Wondering if Jay keeps him as a relief or moves to starter for CWS
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:13 pm to Tiltinallin
This last month yes.
Floyd has been the same all season but Hurd has stepped his game up tremendously. This is why Jay kept pitching him and Little. He knew at least one of them would break through eventually.
With that said, Floyd is your number 2 starter. Hurd has proven he can come in relief or start and that is a solid option to always have. He can do something like what Poche did in 2017. Was used in relief and as a starter in the CWS.
Floyd has been the same all season but Hurd has stepped his game up tremendously. This is why Jay kept pitching him and Little. He knew at least one of them would break through eventually.
With that said, Floyd is your number 2 starter. Hurd has proven he can come in relief or start and that is a solid option to always have. He can do something like what Poche did in 2017. Was used in relief and as a starter in the CWS.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:15 pm to Tiltinallin
Ty is your number 2. Hurd is the number 3. I would expect Hurd would start game 3 unless if we won game 1 and by the time Ty is coming out the game we have a big lead then they put Hurd in to shut things down. Otherwise I would expect Hurd to be saved for a potential game 3.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:16 pm to Broski
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Hurd was getting loose when Skenes was running into a bit of trouble in the 8th on Friday.
I gotta say tho the fact that the pitching staff outside of Skenes and Floyd was such a mess for most of the season you have a bunch of dudes in the pen that can do a lot of things.
Jay can just go into every game and pitch whoever he needs in whatever situation to win that day and then worry about the next day then.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:16 pm to Broski
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I really want to believe this, because we need 3 starting pitchers if we want to win the CWS... but Hurd was getting loose when Skenes was running into a bit of trouble in the 8th on Friday.
I think I said in that game thread that I would have more upset about bringing Hurd in there than having thrown Skenes in game 1.

Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:17 pm to Tiltinallin
It's still Floyd over Hurd
I'm happy about the progess Hurd has made recently, but ...
... is a bit much. I think he's pitching good enough for us to win some more games, but 5IP, 4ER, 7H, 3W, 2 HRs is not an amazing performance just because he K'd 12 batters on some great looking pitches.
I'm happy about the progess Hurd has made recently, but ...
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Hurd has looked amazing his last couple of outings.
... is a bit much. I think he's pitching good enough for us to win some more games, but 5IP, 4ER, 7H, 3W, 2 HRs is not an amazing performance just because he K'd 12 batters on some great looking pitches.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:18 pm to ProjectP2294
I don't think you change anything. Floyd starts game 2 and you use Hurd if it can secure you a close win in games 1 or 2 and if that situation never comes up then he starts game 3.
For everyone asking about starting Hurd in game 2 and bring Floyd out of the pen, do you really want to bring in a fastball pitcher who has a tendency to start slow and give up deep fly balls late in the game with guys on base and a 2 run lead? Or would you rather bring in the guy that has a wicked curveball and more mental toughness in that situation? Floyd and Hurd can give you pretty much the same thing from a starter's perspective, so let Floyd start where he has time to settle in. A solo HR or deep sac fly won't kill you in a start but it can be devastating in the pen
For everyone asking about starting Hurd in game 2 and bring Floyd out of the pen, do you really want to bring in a fastball pitcher who has a tendency to start slow and give up deep fly balls late in the game with guys on base and a 2 run lead? Or would you rather bring in the guy that has a wicked curveball and more mental toughness in that situation? Floyd and Hurd can give you pretty much the same thing from a starter's perspective, so let Floyd start where he has time to settle in. A solo HR or deep sac fly won't kill you in a start but it can be devastating in the pen
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:19 pm to Tiltinallin
2 and 3.
Hurd has been a positive but I wouldn't use the word amazing.
Hurd has been a positive but I wouldn't use the word amazing.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:19 pm to Broski
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I really want to believe this, because we need 3 starting pitchers if we want to win the CWS... but Hurd was getting loose when Skenes was running into a bit of trouble in the 8th on Friday.
I think Hurd is your third starter, unless we need him to secure an earlier win, and in that case, Coleman is your third starter.
The reason Coleman didn't start the third game of the regional might have been because of the weather. CJJ used Cooper, who has a rubber arm, and can be brought back after a rain delay. He held out Coleman in case we had a game four.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:21 pm to ProjectP2294
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Floyd is still 2. Hurd 3. We basically treated Game 2 as two separate games. I don't think Hurd comes out of the pen under normal circumstances.
idk it was a must win and Floyd was already throwing a lot of pit ch e’s, there is a chance we throw Hurd in that game.
it’s wild we didn’t use coleman at all this weekend.
he’s solid for 2 innings. his issue has been stretching into the 3rd.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:22 pm to Broski
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I really want to believe this, because we need 3 starting pitchers if we want to win the CWS... but Hurd was getting loose when Skenes was running into a bit of trouble in the 8th on Friday.
Someone else was warming with him, think it was Coop or Ack can't remember. The plan was most likely to send the other guy warming with a short leash and if the game got tight send Hurd out there to stop the bleeding and assure the win. Luckily it didn't come to that.
If it's a 1 run game late into game 1 in the Supers then Hurd may come in to make sure we finish the win but otherwise I think we save him for a closing spot in game 2 with a lead or a game 3 start if it looks like that'll be necessary
If we get to Omaha I would imagine Hurd would be saved to start a 3rd game especially if we get a win in the first game with Skenes starting which would guarantee a 3rd game.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:27 pm to Broski
Hurd was probably playing catch during game 1 to keep the opponent guessing on who would come in so they had less time to prep their batters on the new pitcher.
It was probably a psy op
No way you have Hurd close a game against Tulane.
It was probably a psy op
No way you have Hurd close a game against Tulane.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:30 pm to notbilly
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but 5IP, 4ER, 7H, 3W, 2 HRs is not an amazing performance
If our bats stay hot, and bullpen isn't a full liability. we dont need amazing. we only need average, so yes Hurd can get it done if we stay playing the same level we have come to
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:30 pm to notbilly
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think he's pitching good enough for us to win some more games, but 5IP, 4ER, 7H, 3W, 2 HRs is not an amazing performance just because he K'd 12 batters on some great looking pitches.
Hurd has been good the entire month of May. It hasn’t just been the last couple of weeks.
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:35 pm to Tiltinallin
They will only get better if they can make Omaha because the dingers they give up won't be dingers in Omaha. It becomes pitcher's advantage then. That's their biggest problem consistently throwing strikes and then sending one right down the piper to get barreled up. Hurd in my opinion has better stuff than Floyd when he's on his game. Both are good but Hurd's stuff is friday night stuff if he's at the top of his game. I wouldn't be shocked to see Hurd as the friday guy on the mound next year unless they snag another Skenes from the portal.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 12:36 pm
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