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TBoy
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
Fact is that on any given day we could beat anyone. At times it seemed as though the team didn’t believe this, but it was always true.


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nola000
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BEATbama05
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
We faced OSU who might end up putting everyone out, and we sat Hilliard in Regionals so we made it as far as we were capable.


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CWS91
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
Print the tshirts


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bfniii
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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Do you goobers expect to win it all every single year?
no. but it is absolutely not unreasonable to expect the premier program to not be bested at the cws by several other programs over a 7-8 year period. even if you include '09, lsu is still not clearly the best over a 10 year period. you could even make a case that lsu isn't even clearly top 3 at the cws since '09 depending on what criteria you want to emphasize.

what i don't understand is why people continually make excuses for that. BUT, BUT NATIONAL SEEDS


PendlTiger
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Member since Jun 2018
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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I find that to be pretty incredible as well.

Anyone shitting on this thread is misguided. In a down year, with a shite ton of injuries, we played well against some of the best teams in the country. We aren't that far from where we want to be.

That's not taking a moral victory. It's pulling the positive out of an otherwise depressing season.


I'm with ProjectP on this one.

Yes, as fans we should expect the very best from our team, but when they fall short of those expectations, (especially due to factors beyond their control) we shouldn't trash talk them and complain about not making it to Omaha. You need to applaud when there's a legitimate effort and root for your team when they're playing their hearts out.


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Howyouluhdat
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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lsu is still not clearly the best over a 10 year period



Give me your top teams/coaches and I can make a case against every single one of them

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what i don't understand is why people continually make excuses for that. BUT, BUT NATIONAL SEEDS



You just don't understand the inner workings of college baseball in todays game and how it's drastically changed. Every single program's fans can throw hissy fits about bad years like you are. STFU and enjoy where PM has this program. We will be absolutely loaded next year. Just about every single year we are in contention for a championship. A lot of teams cant say that


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FightinTiga
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
Wow,this is where the new LSU base dwells


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bfniii
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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Give me your top teams/coaches and I can make a case against every single one of them
oh good grief not this crap again.

since 2010
lsu: 4-7, 3 app
or st: 4-4, 2 app
fsu: 4-6, 3 app
fla: 11-11, 6 app, 1 nc
tcu: 11-10, 5 app
ariz: 10-3, 2 app, 1 nc
uva: 11-6, 3 app, 1 nc
vandy: 11-6, 3 app, 1 nc
ucla: 9-5, 3 app, 1 nc
scar: 15-4, 3 app, 2 nc

let's be honest, over that period of time compared to those programs, lsu's cws record looks pretty pedestrian. granted, you could say that lsu has appeared twice since ucla and scar so, the tigers have that going for them.

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You just don't understand the inner workings of college baseball in todays game and how it's drastically changed.
here come the excuses. yeah, this has NEVER been discussed around here

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STFU and enjoy where PM has this program
on that list, tell me who lsu is better than and why. include in your expert analysis the fact that texas, ttech, ark, or st and unc all have a chance at 3 app since 2010 to surpass lsu's win total at the cws. that's 5 teams. the run to the final series crept the tigers back into the top 10 before this season. not making it this year might cause lsu to fall back out of the top 10 depending on what happens. keep in mind this is over a 9 year period. to summarize, lsu is barely in the top 10 in cws wins over a 9 year period and might be on the outside looking in after the cws. that is a sobering statistic. you're right. things have changed

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Just about every single year we are in contention for a championship
um, no. in only 2 years since 2000 was lsu even close.

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A lot of teams cant say that
well, at least 7 can. the question is why you're ok with that.
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Howyouluhdat
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
LSU: 5 Trips to CWS and 1 title in 12 years under PM. Missed the tourney twice and one being his first year.

or st: Casey has been there for 25+ years and has reached the CWS 5 times..let me say that again FIVE!

fsu: Well this doesn't even need to be mentioned. The fact that you would actually put FSU in this discussion shows you don't follow CB. They are the ultimate underachievers.

fla: I will give UF & O'Sullivan credit where credit is due. I don't think I need to mention what they have done

tcu: In 15 years under Schloss. 5 trips to CWS. No titles and coming off a bad year like LSU except worse

ariz: Missed the NCAA tourney completely 5 out of the last 10 years and made Omaha twice. 1 Title

uva: Last 15 years only 4 trips to CWS. 1 title

vandy: Last 15 years only 3 trips and 1 title

ucla: Missed the tourney 3 times in 10 years with 3 CWS app and 1 title

scar: Missed the tourney 4 times in the last 10 years with 3 CWS app and 2 titles.

You can cry all you want but LSU still has a better program than everybody on that list minus maybe UF
You fail to mention the failures of these other schools and only their successes. They have all had really bad years and more of them.

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um, no. in only 2 years since 2000 was lsu even close.


So LSU has been to the CWS 5 times in the last 12 years and that's not close? Hell a super regional is close and that would make 7 of the last 12 years. I hope you understand why this year went the way it did.

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well, at least 7 can. the question is why you're ok with that.


If you set your expectations through the roof you will always be disappointed. That's your fault though. Most rational fans know not to expect a championship every year. We might want one but we know not to expect one. Big difference


bfniii
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Member since Nov 2005
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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in 12 years under PM
ah. shifting the goalposts right out of the gate. good move

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Casey has been there for 25+ years
*ignores the RECENT record i just posted and the fact that they are there again and the fact that they are considered a favorite and the fact that they just SPANKED LSU TWICE

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They are the ultimate underachievers
yet has an BETTER cws record over the last 9 years

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I will give UF & O'Sullivan credit where credit is due
but you said you were going to destroy all the examples. also, if you're going to put fla over lsu, then tcu HAS to be over lsu.

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In 15 years
not part of the discussion. even so, still KICKING LSU'S arse at the cws recently. lsu is not anywhere close to tcu's level. worlds apart

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Missed the NCAA tourney completely 5 out of the last 10 years
did you see the record? you didn't explain how lsu's is better. you merely stated it.

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Last 15 years
why do you keep changing the time period. the stats i posted were ceteris paribus

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You can cry all you want but LSU still has a better program than everybody on that list minus maybe UF
and you are objectively wrong and your analysis was laughable

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You fail to mention the failures of these other schools and only their successes
i posted the RECORDS. wins and losses. you are all over the place.

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So LSU has been to the CWS 5 times in the last 12 years and that's not close?
no, 0-2 is not "close."

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If you set your expectations through the roof you will always be disappointed
look at the freaking records. i am comparing apples to apples. it has nothing to do with expectations. and why are you making excuses?

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Most rational fans know not to expect a championship every year.
nothing i have said has ANYTHING to do with this. at all.

congratulations for winning village idiot for the day


Howyouluhdat
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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ignores the RECENT record i just posted and the fact that they are there again and the fact that they are considered a favorite and the fact that they just SPANKED LSU TWICE



Ignores RECENT bad seasons OSU has had just like everybody else on your list and ignores the fact that LSU SPANKED them last year in the CWS.


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yet has an BETTER cws record over the last 9 year


And still hasn't been to a title game or won a title. frick their record. They are garbage and the fact that you are vouching for them over LSU shows you are a troll.

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not part of the discussion. even so, still KICKING LSU'S arse at the cws recently. lsu is not anywhere close to tcu's level. worlds apart


It is part of the discussion because you think TCU has a better program because they beat LSU twice yet Schloss has had less success than PM and has coached longer.

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did you see the record? you didn't explain how lsu's is better. you merely stated it.


Yes I did you are just too fricking dumb to understand it.


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posted the RECORDS. wins and losses. you are all over the place


And never once mention the bad seasons sandwiched in between all of the CWS years. Are you serious? You love to mention the bad for LSU though. Go pull for a diff program it's that simple. PM is not going anywhere and rightfully so.

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no, 0-2 is not "close


Glass half empty guy. Man you are a miserable frick. If making the CWS isn't close to winning a championship then neither is making the CFB playoff and that is laughable

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it has nothing to do with expectations. and why are you making excuses?


It has everything to do with it or you wouldn't be having this argument. Your vagina is melting because LSU had a bad year but you are too dumb to understand why.





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lsufan_26
LSU Fan
Member since Feb 2004
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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Coulda, shoulda, woulda

I don't think that's the point of this thread. This team would have had no business making it to Omaha, and to a certain extent, a super regional. Pretty sure the OP is just pointing out we had a really solid cumulative record against the teams in the CWS.


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AlwysATgr
LSU Fan
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Member since Apr 2008
8598 posts

re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
We also eliminated all three SEC teams from the SECT.

This team didn't have much margin for error and peaked in the SECT. After that, we were done.


hondo
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2006
641 posts

re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
Yes. The point of the original post was to point out our record against CWS teams. Nothing more ,nothing less. It’s not a difficult concept.


AlwysATgr
LSU Fan
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Member since Apr 2008
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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Yes. The point of the original post was to point out our record against CWS teams. Nothing more ,nothing less. It’s not a difficult concept.


Just adding another positive to bolster the OP's point. Is that allowed?


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EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Member since Apr 2013
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
This team was very good at times. Just lacked the depth, pitching, and consistency to be elite. Things are looking up for next year.


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bfniii
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2005
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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Ignores RECENT bad seasons OSU has had just like everybody else on your list and ignores the fact that LSU SPANKED them last year in the CWS
i didn't ignore any of that. it's in the record but you did ignore that they have a chance to surpass lsu's cws record for the decade.

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And still hasn't been to a title game or won a title
what does that have to do with record?

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frick their record
this is hilarious. ariz sucks because they haven't been as consistent as lsu but, osu sucks because they didn't make it to the final series like lsu did. i guess you don't realize you're doing this. also, i guess you don't know how stupid you sound when saying to forget the records.

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They are garbage and the fact that you are vouching for them over LSU shows you are a troll.
i haven't "vouched" for anyone. i posted records and pointed out how you're constantly moving the goalposts

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It is part of the discussion because you think TCU has a better program
from 2010 to the present, there's no question they have a better program. it's not even close. you don't understand ceteris paribus do you?

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Yes I did you are just too fricking dumb to understand it.
says the person who can't come to grips with win/loss record. this is the same stupid conversation that happened last year. you're trying to tear down the other programs using a sliding scale but then also making excuses for mainieri because "everyone else caught up." which is it? either admit that lsu has been passed up or explain how win/loss record at the cws doesn't really mean anything and lsu is still really on top. again, every time you express your opinion on another program compared to lsu, you keep changing the conditions of the comparison

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And never once mention the bad seasons sandwiched in between all of the CWS years
because "bad season" is completely subjective. wins and losses are completely objective. again, comparing apples to apples

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You love to mention the bad for LSU though
you don't know what i love. second, i posted records. i didn't post "bad" vs "good"

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Glass half empty guy
not that you would know

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Man you are a miserable frick
for pointing out your stupidity? you're the one who can't deal with the records. explain how several other programs have a better cws record over a 9 year period

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If making the CWS isn't close to winning a championship
i'm comparing lsu's cws record to that of other programs and lsu for nearly a decade has lagged behind several programs. that's the point i'm making. i'm sorry you don't like facts

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It has everything to do with it or you wouldn't be having this argument
i'm trying to keep you on the subject - the records. not "bad years" not "close" to a championship not "national seeds" or any of that subjective bullcrap. expectations have nothing to do with the brute fact of the records.

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Your vagina is melting because LSU had a bad year but you are too dumb to understand why.
i have multiple times pointed out that the injuries this year were very much outside of his control and that there is really good reason for optimism next season and you would know that if you actually bothered to look instead of acting like an arse because you can't come to terms with reality.


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semjase
LSU Fan
Member since May 2014
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re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
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I also don’t want to celebrate being 9-6 against teams that made it to Omaha. We’re better than that.
We're not better than that.

All you Pump Lump Nut Butter Cheerleader MA's totally embrace "The Meds" with your litany of excuses for every LSU loss in every sport.

No matter what the failure is, yall got it covered with one of your well worn and time honored defenses.


Amish threesome
Olive Branch
Member since Oct 2013
783 posts

re: Suprising Data: LSU vs. CWS teams
I’m not a betting man but I’m 95 percent sure the person that started this thread is ok with participation trophy and must have a couple in his or her (trying to be politically correct) room at moms house. Second place was designed to make the loser feel better.


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