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re: Stop making excuses for Moffitt. Why is the bar set low for him?
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:18 pm to 72Tigah
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:18 pm to 72Tigah
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Yes we are ranked in the top 5 and Bama is at the top. How bout that for obfectivity. If you think that the difference between recruiting rankings determine everything, you're a victum of disorganized thinking. Spelling it out for you is that one of the biggest differences between these 2 programs is Scott Cochran and Tommy Moffitt. To be successful there is being successful on Saturdays and some Mondays. This is most glaring to me.
You know nothing
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:19 pm to Stevo
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Stevo
A blowhard such as whatever it is you are has no room to call anyone else any names, loser.
If you can’t handle that moffit is asswax and has been for a while then you’re part of the problem that settles for “just good enough”. Go kick rocks, pajamaboy.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:38 pm to 31TIGERS
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If you can’t handle that moffit is asswax
Tommy is still considered one of the best S&C coaches and is regularly sought after by college and pro teams. So, when idiots such as yourself make claims with no support, you should not act surprised when you get called out for it. Back up claims, and maybe you’ll get some respect on here, junior.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:01 pm to 72Tigah
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. 1. We recruit as well as anybody and yes even Bama
Don’t agree at all! It’s not just that they are getting one or two of around the same ranked player as us it’s that they get 3 out of the top 5 or 6 at every LOS position if you recruit like that then at least one player is gonna be a stud if not all of them then you have ridiculous depth if you go back the last 6 years it’s more of the same we’re not quite to their level
2019 CLASS
Alabama
#5 OT - 20 overall
#6 OT - 35
#8 OT - 52
#3 SDE - 28
#5 SDE - 75
#6 SDE - 88
#14 SDE - 190
#3 WDE - 57
#5 WDE - 113
#9 WDE - 160
LSU
#2 OG - 32 overall
#13 OG - 199
#16 OT - 154
#36 OT - 444
#11 DT - 159
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:18 pm to lsu777
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despise how we don't use specific gymnastics to work on moving the body through space for rb,wr, and dbs.
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fricking despise how Moffitt is so old school on conditioning and how he doesn't use atleast most of the conjugate principles with the special exercises
Like what specifically?
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Also hate how we don't make dramatic body transformations that are capable of happening.
Happens all the time man
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:28 pm to LSUOverEveryTeam
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Stop making excuses for Moffitt. Why is the bar set low for him?
Surprised this hasn't been debated more, most of LSU's problems appear to along the Oline and Dline.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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LSU actually has a history of guys doing very shitty at the combine, including star players like Dorsey, Landry, etc.
Jake this is a very 2008 comment
I assume you mean Jarvis & not Laron
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:28 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Surprised this hasn't been debated more, most of LSU's problems appear to along the Oline and Dline.
it has not been debated on here much because it takes a special kind of stupid to think that it is actually an issue. Most understand that we need to be a little better in recruiting, and a little more innovative on offense. This year's recruiting class is definitely a step in the right direction.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:17 pm to Dizz
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sometimes pretty obvious when there's a strength disparity
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What are the obvious signs you see on TV that show you there is a strength disparity?
When an O-linemen goes backwards towards the QB or gets tossed around often in a game, strength is the primary reason. I realize better technique could offset some of that but it's more strength than anything. You see it at every level of football.
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:24 pm to des4271
quote:ok, but I'd argue that 99% of the reason is Williams' genetics, not some magical transformation from Bama's S&C program.
Talked about this with a friend recently and I totally agree. Quinnen Williams is a perfect example, his explosiveness, quickness, strength and agility are off the charts. He doesn't have any "bad" weight and all of our dt's do, which takes away from all the traits that make Williams great.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:44 pm to lsu777
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Scott is using the same damn system as Moffitt
Scott is an LSU grad who got his start on Moffitt ‘s staff, l believe. The system and approach is the same. There are no secrets and the results depend on who you have to work with.
Scapegoating Moffitt is as dumb as it is desperate.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:57 pm to atltiger6487
Should have elaborated further, my point was that I think they are recruiting the wrong people,wrong types of players. I'm not sure what weight Quentin came in to Alabama at I'd have to look at that to see if the strength and conditioning program actually made a difference with him. I don't know that and didn't insinuate that though it may have seemed that way by my comments. I think Rashard Lawrence should lose some weight in my opinion I think it would help him with his stamina and his quickness and explosiveness.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 5:39 pm to UntamedTig3r
quote:nonsense. It's athletic ability and technique: footwork, quickness, balance, leverage, etc. Is strength a factor - sure, but it's far from the most important.
When an O-linemen goes backwards towards the QB or gets tossed around often in a game, strength is the primary reason. I realize better technique could offset some of that but it's more strength than anything. You see it at every level of football.
It's not raw strength. It if was, elite college teams would recruit only the strongest guys. And we know that's silly.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 5:41 pm to LSUOverEveryTeam
Moffitt was awesome 15 years ago but just like anything his trade has passed him by. There's younger guys, some who studied under him, who are better.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 6:04 pm to LSUOverEveryTeam
Moffitt is doing what the head coach tells him he wants.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 6:21 pm to Dizz
So he's stronger, faster, quicker and more agile than most everyone, you wanted an answer and I gave it to you, he's without a doubt stronger. It's not solely strength but it's a big part of it, along with great coaching/technique and God given talent, heart and desire.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 6:30 pm to 72Tigah
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aren't developing our O and D linemen to their absolute potential relative to conditioning and athletisism
Who specifically do you feel hasn’t been developed in this way
This was a recruiting problem. Not s&c. We’ve gotten some solid program guys but nothing top end. You can’t beat bama with program guys
Posted on 1/6/19 at 6:40 pm to Stevo
It takes a special kind of stupid to not realize Miss St, Fla, and others don’t all overpower your line unless you’ve got problems developing them.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 7:28 pm to Lester Earl
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fricking despise how Moffitt is so old school on conditioning and how he doesn't use atleast most of the conjugate principles with the special exercises
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Like what specifically?
As in still running wind sprints look they are the end all be an. He should have the individual position groups and they should be running sprints based on distance and timing of the offense.
Defranco's describes it better than me.
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As far as special exercises, we don't do strong man, don't do box squats, I don't even think they use accommodating resistance. He doesn't have the skill players working on gymnastics etc.
Again that isn't why bama is beating us though, it's because they have recruited and developed lineman way better than us.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 8:04 pm to LSUOverEveryTeam
The o line problem has been largely the same as the qb situation until burrow. Too much attrition, not enough depth, and guys having to play before they’re ready. Even if talented, it usually takes a few years for a lineman to get physically ready and a qb to get mentally ready. We used a lot of underclassmen in the trenches lately but coach o seems to be moving in the right direction on this.
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 8:06 pm
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