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re: Stop making excuses for Moffitt. Why is the bar set low for him?
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:28 am to LSUOverEveryTeam
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:28 am to LSUOverEveryTeam
Like it or not but one of the biggest advantages that Bama has over everyone is there strength and conditions. Besides being obviously very talented their guys simply overpower and are more physically dominant. Every player they put on the field is ripped and possesses explosive football power. Corcoran learned from Moffitt and has taken it to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL!!
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:34 am to ArcticTiger
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Every player they put on the field is ripped and possesses explosive football power.
When you recruit the elite of the elite that is what happens these guys are already more explosive and stronger than 99% of players. The biggest advantage they have is being very very talented and very very well coached. Strengtj and conditioning is the icing on the cake that allows for the talent and coaching to flourish.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:37 am to LSUOverEveryTeam
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We need results not excuses. It seems like most teams are stronger than us, in the trenches.
Thats because our oline fundamentals have slipped. In the limited video ive watched the footwork and handplacement of the oline has gone to shite. When a taller dlinemen gets under our olineman, that technique.
When our oline doesnt try to use their arm length as an advantage,thats technique.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:38 am to 72Tigah
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We recruit as well as anybody and yes even Bama.
No we dont. Bama's 2nd team could finish in the top 15.
No one is close to bama.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:41 am to LSUOverEveryTeam
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It seems like most teams are stronger than us, in the trenches.
How can you tell the difference in another team being stronger on the line and not better at technique, execution, or running a better scheme?
Blaming lack of strength for poor showing on the line is lazy.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:01 am to Dizz
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We recruit as well as anybody and yes even Bama
Clearly someone doesn't pay any attention to recruiting
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:08 am to Dizz
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It seems like most teams are stronger than us, in the trenches.
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How can you tell the difference in another team being stronger on the line and not better at technique, execution, or running a better scheme?
Yes technique plays a critical part but it's actually sometimes pretty obvious when there's a strength disparity favoring the other team, especially if you're knowledgeable of your own team's strengths and skills at that position.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 1:27 am to LSUOverEveryTeam
Some of you people are delusional. We have not recruited in the trenches as well as we used to. That’s the difference. And there is nothing Moffitt can do about that.. you want to see his results. Look to White.. top end talent that he turned into a monster because that’s what White wanted and earned.. Look at Delpit , who came in an extreme talent who’s blossomed into that talent with bulk to his frame..
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:24 am to lsu777
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Look in the trenches. Scott is using the same damn system as Moffitt, the hatch systems. You don't know what your talking about. Our issues are two fold, on oline we lack talent and we have shitty footwork. On dline we have a lack of elite talent. Bama has elite talent in the trenches, we don't.
I just said this and get downvoted
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:43 am to LSUOverEveryTeam
If you watch Alabama play, it's honestly hard to tell the difference between the defensive linemen and the linebackers when they're chasing a ball carrier. They all look pretty much alike.
The LSU defensive linemen seem to be big guys with less explosiveness than Bama. They have brute force and explosiveness at 290-295 pound guys, and we have 315-325 pound players that lack the burst.
The LSU defensive linemen seem to be big guys with less explosiveness than Bama. They have brute force and explosiveness at 290-295 pound guys, and we have 315-325 pound players that lack the burst.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 4:24 am to lsu777
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. Our issues are two fold, on oline we lack talent and we have shitty footwork. On dline we have a lack of elite talent. Bama has elite talent in the trenches, we don't
Posted on 1/6/19 at 5:40 am to 72Tigah
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1. We recruit as well as anybody and yes even Bama.
HAHA, No! We do not recruit as well as Bama; it’s not even close. They have four big dlinemen in their class this year. They chose all four OVER the ones we’re getting. They could have had the guys we’re dreaming of closing with.
At QB they have the number 1 guy in his recruiting class. They are MUCH better than us at running back and wide receiver. They have been ranked #1 in recruiting every year, except one, for about a decade.
When you start with this premise it leads you to foolish conclusions. It’s like someone declaring, “Since the interstate highways are all made of marshmellows, we can make neighborhood streets, inexpensively, out of marshmellows.”
Posted on 1/6/19 at 5:57 am to Hmerly
quote:“Regimen”. Add the “t” and it’s an army.
If you just look at Bama players, it’s pretty obvious what’s happening. They get top players, but after going through the Bama regiment, they come out all looking the same. Have you not noticed their linebackers year after year? They look like bricks but run fast as hell.
Their LBs look like Devin White, and it’s because, while we get one Devin White every three year, they get two EVERY year.
Guys, the problem on the line is not Moffit. It’s numbers. They get lots of quality linemen every year who are then buried on the depth chart, except for the random freaks. So they don’t play until their third or fourth year. I’m not going to do the research, but I’ll bet their starting linemen average more than a year older than ours. And because they don’t start as freshmen or sophomores, they stay an extra year. This is mainly why they are more developed. This, and because they recruit guys who are bigger and badder.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 6:15 am to BBATiger
quote:Noticeable difference in the OFFENSIVE and Defensive Lines. in both front line talent and depth for the Crimson Plague.
Bama has better players. If Moffitt was training them, they be just as good.
They recruit North, South, East and West for National/SEC Championship caliber OL's/DL's.
LSU doesn't. End of story.
Orgeron and the Recruiting Coordinator don't seem to understand the concept of recruiting across the USA for Linemen; whatever it takes and go wherever you need to go...…….
Posted on 1/6/19 at 7:31 am to LSUgrad08112
Alabama recruits five star athletes who are for the most part farther along physically when they walk in the door, which is why they are 5 stars. So if Alabama recruit comes in power cleaning 300 pounds and LSU guy comes in at 250. They do the same program in three years the Alabama guy is still stronger. LSU takes many projects in the trenches, Alabama takes much more finished products. That is the difference.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 7:47 am to GeauxLSU4
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I believe there’s a plan in place for Viloria to take over at some point. That was part of the reason he left Florida state to come back here.
The first part may be true, but the second part is undeniably false. He left FSU because the new coaching staff didn't want to retain him.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 9:07 am to Philippines4LSU
TD sponsor why don't get your sorry arse of this sight & go to the Bama rant ! 
Posted on 1/6/19 at 9:20 am to Drizzt
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There is no secret to strength except lifting heavy weight.
I’m no gym rat but this is an ignorant statement.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 9:33 am to LSUOverEveryTeam
I agree with you that he needs to step up his game. We should not consistently get manhandled in the trenches. I believe some of it is coaching, but some of it is also strength. We've had lesser competition throw us around and that is not acceptable.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 9:36 am to GeauxLSU4
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When we continue to get manhandled in the trenches against Florida and Bama, we can’t put all the blame on the position coaches. Moffitt needs to be held accountable just like everyone else.
Those are poor examples. At Florida we struggled to contain their pass rush on the edges, their edge rushers ran by our guys like they were standing still. If anything, that's a technique issue. We also had several break downs in pass protection by leaving blitzes unblocked, particularly #11 Joseph. But we certainly didn't get manhandled, we even had a solid day on the ground going for 180 on 4.4 ypc.
As for Bama, put manhandled on the long list of things they did better than us. But that's hardly an indictment on Moffitt. They recruit a different breed over there. They're bigger, they're stronger, they're more athletic, and most importantly they're just better. Moffitt doesn't even make the list of things we have to do better to compete with them.
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