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re: Stop complaining about baseball OOC schedule...
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:25 am to ULalum06
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:25 am to ULalum06
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ULalum06
Well you sound like a very level headed pepper....must be one of the few non-Gumps driving around University, Pinhook, and Kaliste Saloom
Anywho I think Coach Rob is going to have to do what the Lotief's and did travel a lot to keep this thing going....and you may take your lumps cause you won't always have Conrad, Robicheaux, Baranik, and Leonards. LSU isn't gonna do it for you I mean what incentive do we have. You guys are going to have to travel to places like Florida, Miami, UNC, Virginia, etc and play series at the top teams. You are going to have to do that for a while just like your softball team did. Then at some point you may be able to get a UC-Irvine or an Indiana to make a trip to your park. Then after that you will get a top echelon team to come in like your softball team did this year in OU.
My point is it is going to take a lot to keep this train rolling for ULL (and they will take some hits doing it). Your going to have to do it outside of LSU....I mean hell even after Yvette went to LSU, ULL had to make their softball name elsewhere. They (baseball) haven't shown in the past the willingness or ability to go the miles (literally and figuratively) to make that happen.....we will see what happens now.
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:34 am to ProjectP2294
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So how did we get stuck with Yale?
We didnt get stuck with Yale. We scheduled them just like Miss St scheduled Holy Cross, S Carolina scheduled Brown and Bucknell, Vandy scheduled Illinois-Chicago.
Go up and down every SEC schedule, bad northern schools are on everyone.
Simple fact is UNO, Tulane, Northwestern, ULM, Southeastern, and Southern were all bad this year. You can not say that most years.
Scheduling ULL in a weekend series is not the answer. Sure it would be nice to go out west and play a PAC12 school for a weekend but not many SEC schools do this either. LSU OOC schedule is fine when the instate schools that are midweek games are good. That did not happen this year.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:35 am to LSU316
Thanks, I think if you look over my post history I try and remain level headed when responding, although I have my irrational slips.
Coach Rob is amazing, but with this being his last son I just don't know how many more years he will be here. If we keep the current coaching lineup we will have a really good chance at continually improving. I completely agree with everything you are saying. Equating it to softball is definitely an easy thing to do and see.
I guess my biggest fear/worry is Rob leaving. It's a crap shoot for the next in line. What I love about baseball/softball is that unlike football it's that on any given pitch something special can happen either on the offensive or defensive side of the ball. I appreciate all the insight, hope to see you guys at The Tigue for a super! Hopefully we both make it.
Geaux Louisiana <- the state. lol.
Coach Rob is amazing, but with this being his last son I just don't know how many more years he will be here. If we keep the current coaching lineup we will have a really good chance at continually improving. I completely agree with everything you are saying. Equating it to softball is definitely an easy thing to do and see.
I guess my biggest fear/worry is Rob leaving. It's a crap shoot for the next in line. What I love about baseball/softball is that unlike football it's that on any given pitch something special can happen either on the offensive or defensive side of the ball. I appreciate all the insight, hope to see you guys at The Tigue for a super! Hopefully we both make it.
Geaux Louisiana <- the state. lol.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:50 am to JPLSU1981
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Bottom line (to whoever makes the final decisions): Our OOC schedule is under our control. Our 2014 OOC schedule sucks. Our OOC schedule is hurting us. Fix it.
I have been in the group that often complains about our football/baseball OOC schedule. I hate that the football team will play a quality OOC opponent at a "neutral site", and we get fed the Middle Tennessee, Idaho and UAB crap. In baseball, the CS Fullerton series was electric for a pre-conference weekend. Yale, not so much...
The problem is that it has never cost us a regional, until possibly this year. The way the boys are playing lately, it might not cost us this year either. I do like that we're going to Houston next year, and maybe a close call this year will wake up those in charge, but we'll have to wait for future schedules. The fact that we finished 3rd in the best baseball conference and have to fight in the tournament to get a regional is crazy!
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:22 pm to ULalum06
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Not trolling, honestly...can anyone tell me why lsu doesn't schedule a series with my Ragin' Cajuns (was going to say UL, but i'm sure i'd get the typical Louisville banter..was going to say Louisiana, but i'm sure i'd get the typical Tulane banter)
You left out Monroe.
Nobody has ever been able to satisfactorily explain to me why you guys think you're more entitled to the 'UL' tag than they are.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:23 pm to ULalum06
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I guess my biggest fear/worry is Rob leaving. It's a crap shoot for the next in line.
Well, Fatass Simoneaux is looking for a job.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:29 pm to prplngldtigr
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Yet, a team such as ULL or Cal Poly plays less than 2 or 3 top 50 teams
Now now, you know exactly how many teams we played in the top 50. Don't you?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:47 pm to Filmat11
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The problem is that it has never cost us a regional, until possibly this year. The way the boys are playing lately, it might not cost us this year either. I do like that we're going to Houston next year, and maybe a close call this year will wake up those in charge, but we'll have to wait for future schedules. The fact that we finished 3rd in the best baseball conference and have to fight in the tournament to get a regional is crazy!
we might be one of the 16 best teams, but did we have one of the 16 best seasons?
i don't think it's crazy... should have thought about it when we didn't sweep Yale, when we lost to Tulane, when we tied Georgia
home games aren't the problem... season ticket holders deserve as many as possible for making LSU baseball what it is
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:59 pm to JakeRStephenes
Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:59 pm to ProjectP2294
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It's a waste of time because both schools can get good crowds for pre-conference weekend series by bringing in a quality opponent from another state. They can then play each other in the mid-week and get great crowds mid week as well.
It's not hard to understand. Teams within driving distance should not play each other on the weekend
This is totally irrelevant to the RPI discussion. 1 midweek away game does not equal 3 weekend away games. More road wins increases your RPI. A weekend series at ULL would have helped our RPI more than that 1 midweek game (outcome not withstanding).
Crowd size is worthless to this discussion.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:59 pm to JakeRStephenes
Don't tell me what to do
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:00 pm to chalmetteowl
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home games aren't the problem... season ticket holders deserve as many as possible for making LSU baseball what it is
Our actual attendance was very poor this season compared to past years.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:36 pm to ProjectP2294
1. Do not play any teams in the SWAC. God bless Roger Cador ! A gentleman and a good guy... But no...
2. Try to develop a early season Winn Dixie Showdown type tourney either at Alex Box or in Houston. Play A Rice or Florida State or Miami.
3. Schedule a series on the road to Oregon State or Arizona.
4. LSU baseball should be making enough cash to be able to go on the road every now and then.
2. Try to develop a early season Winn Dixie Showdown type tourney either at Alex Box or in Houston. Play A Rice or Florida State or Miami.
3. Schedule a series on the road to Oregon State or Arizona.
4. LSU baseball should be making enough cash to be able to go on the road every now and then.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:50 pm to Godfather1
i don't think of us being entitled to a name over any other school. i think that we have actively sought out to brand ourselves as the Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns. Our fan base refers to the university as UL for ease on the pallet.
Whereas ulm has actively branded themselves as ULM or The Warhawks. They have branded themselves a certain way and we have taken a different branding avenue.
TBH ULM is extremely easier to say/use than ULL.
The University of Louisiana at Lafayette does not want to change its name, nor does it feel entitled to be the only school in Louisiana. What we have done and will continue to do is promote the university ATHLETICALLY as Louisiana or Ragin' Cajuns. Not UL. Branding athletics is completely withing the rights and rules set forth by the law that stipulates the 'University of Louisiana at' designation.
Whereas ulm has actively branded themselves as ULM or The Warhawks. They have branded themselves a certain way and we have taken a different branding avenue.
TBH ULM is extremely easier to say/use than ULL.
The University of Louisiana at Lafayette does not want to change its name, nor does it feel entitled to be the only school in Louisiana. What we have done and will continue to do is promote the university ATHLETICALLY as Louisiana or Ragin' Cajuns. Not UL. Branding athletics is completely withing the rights and rules set forth by the law that stipulates the 'University of Louisiana at' designation.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:55 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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A weekend series at ULL would have helped our RPI more than that 1 midweek game (outcome not withstanding).
this of course is only true if UL continues it's success year after year.
Example, when we are slated to play a series with UNO or any other substantially lower RPI team sweeping them will still bring our RPI down. If UL were to get back into a slump where we don't in 40 games year after year, that series would hurt lsu.
my 0.02
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:56 pm to ULalum06
Well, I really don't buy it.
But you at least made an honest stab at an explanation, which is more than I usually get. You receive an A for effort.
But you at least made an honest stab at an explanation, which is more than I usually get. You receive an A for effort.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:01 pm to ULalum06
My idea regarding ULL would be to play a home and home with them at least every other year, but preferably every year.
That gives a quality road game for both teams without either having to give up an entire weekend to play each other. I know ULL would not want to travel to play at LSU for a whole weekend, financially it just wouldn't make sense for them.
That gives a quality road game for both teams without either having to give up an entire weekend to play each other. I know ULL would not want to travel to play at LSU for a whole weekend, financially it just wouldn't make sense for them.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:05 pm to Godfather1
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Well, I really don't buy it.
i know that there are many UL fans that hurt more than help the explanation. I am not in the administration but in my position I have a firm understanding of how the law works, what is illegal and what the university is trying to accomplish.
Media Release this is what has been released, some time ago, to help clear up some of the confusion.
Honestly, myself included, we would love nothing more than to be the University of Louisiana. As fans we always want what we THINK is best for the university, albeit misguided at times. The law clearly states the 'at Lafayette' designation must be used in all official letterhead and seals for academics. The law specifically outlines uses of "UL". Academics, athletics, everything. Anytime we use "University of Louisiana" IT MUST be followed by Lafayette.
BUT...and this is where what we are doing is legal. We are not using the University of Louisiana anywhere without Lafayette.
What we are using is simply Louisiana. Nicknaming our athletics Louisiana is legal.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:50 pm to ProjectP2294
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That gives a quality road game for both teams without either having to give up an entire weekend to play each other. I know ULL would not want to travel to play at LSU for a whole weekend, financially it just wouldn't make sense for them.
Why do you keep saying it doesn't make sense? A weekend trip for ULL to LSU would give them 3 quality away games and be a very low cost road trip.
How is ULL traveling for a weekend series to LSU worse than ULL going to say Texas Tech for a weekend series?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:55 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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How is ULL traveling for a weekend series to LSU worse than ULL going to say Texas Tech for a weekend series?
Because they can't go to Texas Tech in the middle of the week.
Who would they play mid week if they played us on a weekend? Who would we play?
I'm not trying to explain physics, this isn't a difficult concept. The schools are an hour apart. It's more efficient to play each other in the mid week and use the weekends to either travel farther or bring a team from farther away.
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