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re: Stop complaining about baseball OOC schedule...
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:46 am to ULalum06
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:46 am to ULalum06
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can anyone tell me why lsu doesn't schedule a series with my Ragin' Cajuns
There is no reason to schedule a weekend series with an in-state team. It's a waste of both schools time. Those games should be played mid week.
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:47 am to JakeRStephenes
How bout CPM schedule better teams for pre-SEC & midweek games.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:48 am to JakeRStephenes
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OK, I'll explain it one last time, and I will type it slowly so you can follow. The winning %, which makes up 25% of the RPI can absolutely be treated in a vacuum, as it relates to the total number. This is because it only includes what your record is, and hypotheticals can be calculated. There will also be ancillary effects (that means outside) to the remaining 75 % of the RPI, which cannot be treated in a vacuum. Understand?
I know you feel like you're smarter than the room, but what you just typed out doesn't actually answer any of the questions asked about your calculations.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:48 am to TIGERFANZZ
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How bout CPM schedule better teams for pre-SEC & midweek games.
Why? All we have to do is go to Lee-Hines Field a couple of times.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:50 am to JPLSU1981
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The revenue generated from 2-3 home baseball games is NOTHING in the grand scheme of things.
You mean it's "nothing" from the perspective of a fan. I assure you it's something to the guy with the spreadsheet who's trying to balance the baseball budget. Take the revenue away for those home games and he's having to cut summer league budgets, coaches' salaries, etc.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:54 am to Penrod
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I assure you it's something to the guy with the spreadsheet who's trying to balance the baseball budget. Take the revenue away for those home games and he's having to cut summer league budgets, coaches' salaries, etc.
What would generate more revenue:
- A home game against Sacred Heart and not hosting a regional
or
- Going on the road one more time against a school like Dallas Baptist and hosting a regional?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:56 am to ProjectP2294
REVENUE:
with the two schools so close, you'd have more revenue generated from a weekend series with lsu and UL than a lot of the other in-state midweeks combined.
RPI:
in years like this year it would be beneficial to lsu to have scheduled that series, in years like last year it would have been beneficial to UL. assuming UL will continue year over year to improve and be in contention for national seeding it would be mutually beneficial.
so i don't really understand the 'waste of time' argument. honestly.
with the two schools so close, you'd have more revenue generated from a weekend series with lsu and UL than a lot of the other in-state midweeks combined.
RPI:
in years like this year it would be beneficial to lsu to have scheduled that series, in years like last year it would have been beneficial to UL. assuming UL will continue year over year to improve and be in contention for national seeding it would be mutually beneficial.
so i don't really understand the 'waste of time' argument. honestly.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:59 am to ULalum06
ULL weekend series just means more opportunities to play SWAC schools midweek.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:00 am to ULalum06
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so i don't really understand the 'waste of time' argument. honestly
It's a waste of time because both schools can get good crowds for pre-conference weekend series by bringing in a quality opponent from another state. They can then play each other in the mid-week and get great crowds mid week as well.
It's not hard to understand. Teams within driving distance should not play each other on the weekend.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:03 am to ULalum06
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assuming UL will continue year over year to improve
You guys went to Omaha in 2000 right...If you go this year it will be your first time since then right? Will this be your first super since 2000 if you get there? Given this historical information (if I'm right) why should I rely on your assumption here?
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so i don't really understand the 'waste of time' argument
If you take your assumption out of the equation is it more understandable? If I could make it real clear....under normal circumstances playing ULL doesn't do any more for LSU than playing NWSU, LA Tech, or ULM. Under normal circumstances playing LSU is always a world series for ULL.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:08 am to ProjectP2294
meh, i guess there's no changing your mind, however; these two schools with this unfounded animosity would bring in better than average crowds at both venues for the entire weekend.
which lsu didn't do.
but i guess it's moot since it won't ever happen.
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by bringing in a quality opponent from another state
which lsu didn't do.
but i guess it's moot since it won't ever happen.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:09 am to Penrod
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You mean it's "nothing" from the perspective of a fan. I assure you it's something to the guy with the spreadsheet who's trying to balance the baseball budget. Take the revenue away for those home games and he's having to cut summer league budgets, coaches' salaries, etc.
This would be meaningful if LSU baseball was operating in the red. We are not. LSU baseball makes a profit, sometimes upwards of $1-$2 million per year.
We can spare 2-3 home games a year
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:12 am to ULalum06
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i guess there's no changing your mind
There isn't, because I'm right.
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which lsu didn't do.
Thus the complaints.
ETA: And just to be clear, my argument has nothing to do with any "world series" comments someone else made, or any animosity towards ULL, as I have none.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 11:17 am
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:13 am to LSU316
I agree, there isn't much historical data to infer that UL will continually get to Omaha. But if you look at a more micro approach and compare 2013 and 2014 seasons you can easily see an upward trend, hopefully that will continue. Better years, more national coverage, better recruiting, better players...etc. that's my logic at least.
i agree, if UL sucks the series would be unfounded in as far as RPI, but I still am of the belief that it would generate more revenue for both venues than combining the revenues of several of the NWSU, ULM, LaTech midweek games.
i wouldn't say world series, but i understand your point. to add to this, if we were to play a series this 'world series' complex would be muted. meh.
i agree, if UL sucks the series would be unfounded in as far as RPI, but I still am of the belief that it would generate more revenue for both venues than combining the revenues of several of the NWSU, ULM, LaTech midweek games.
i wouldn't say world series, but i understand your point. to add to this, if we were to play a series this 'world series' complex would be muted. meh.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:15 am to JPLSU1981
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This would be meaningful if LSU baseball was operating in the red. We are not. LSU baseball makes a profit, sometimes upwards of $1-$2 million per year.
We can spare 2-3 home games a year
I agree. But this isn't PM's decision to make.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:22 am to ULalum06
ULL is in no position to call out anyone else's schedule. Conference or OOC.
Winning a few less games against stronger competion should trump winning more games against weak competition.
So with that said, how much more is a sweep against Georgia State worth than 2 outta 3 against against an SEC team?
Winning a few less games against stronger competion should trump winning more games against weak competition.
So with that said, how much more is a sweep against Georgia State worth than 2 outta 3 against against an SEC team?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:22 am to ProjectP2294
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The glut of schools in the Carolinas allows for them to play a lot of the same OOC schools that their ACC counterparts play. This helps with their OOWP and inflates all their RPIs.
This. LSU has to fill out around 14 midweek games and the main teams that LSU can play midweek are Tulane, Southern Miss, and ULL. Tulane and USM being bad the past couple of seasons hurts.
Now there are even fewer midweek games within the 1-3 hour drive from Baton Rouge that are high quality.
LSU opened with UNO this season mainly to help out Maestri and to help fill out their new stadium, but we know that didn't work out.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:22 am to JPLSU1981
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This would be meaningful if LSU baseball was operating in the red. We are not. LSU baseball makes a profit, sometimes upwards of $1-$2 million per year. We can spare 2-3 home games a year
Don't know the exact number but LSU football makes profits in the tens of million dollar range. You don't see alleva giving up a home game to go on the road.
You are just not going to see LSU baseball go on the road for many weekend series.
Simple fact is we were supposed to open the season with a weekend series vs Southern Cal (RPI #80) they backed out so we got stuck with UNO and Grambling (RPI #276 and #297). We also scheduled Va Tech who hosted a super last year and disappeared this year.
Also our road SEC record was 6-8 so the ever important road win according to the OP did not happen with this team.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:22 am to TigerCub
Well, at the very least, make one or two of those home OOC series against a Top25 opponent. I know the OP is saying road games mean more than quality of opponents, but nonetheless quality of opponents helps your RPI any way you slice it, whether home or away. As much as home/road?...Maybe not, but it still gives us a bump that we obviously need.
Bottom line (to whoever makes the final decisions): Our OOC schedule is under our control. Our 2014 OOC schedule sucks. Our OOC schedule is hurting us. Fix it.
Bottom line (to whoever makes the final decisions): Our OOC schedule is under our control. Our 2014 OOC schedule sucks. Our OOC schedule is hurting us. Fix it.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 11:34 am
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:23 am to ScottieP
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Simple fact is we were supposed to open the season with a weekend series vs Southern Cal (RPI #80) they backed out so we got stuck with UNO and Grambling
So how did we get stuck with Yale?
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