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Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:31 pm to AshLSU
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And even then, that ref is about to bust a nut running out there trying his best to wave it dead. I’ve never seen a ref act in such an exaggerated manor over an “incomplete pass”.
you're right...he was definitely confident about his call which is fine. A simple replay review would have corrected his error. An incomplete/catch is a reviewable call as is a fumble/non-fumble. The whistle/signals didnt happen until after we recovered the ball so they really have no relevance. The only way they could be deemed inadvertent is if LSU was awarded the fumble recovery, which means the game is over when the inadvertent whistle/signal occurs.Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:33 pm to des4271
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challenged the spot on 4th and 18
Umm that was the correct call 100% would have been foolish to challenge since the TV crew fricked up
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:34 pm to RobbBobb
quote:It's moot. The 'clear recovery' rule makes it moot. If replay determines there was a clear recovery then they can award the recoverer the ball, just not the yardage (or score); can't be advanced.
How about you watch this. At 12 seconds the ref already has his arms in the air indicating, a stopped clock, dead ball, and obviously a whistle. All before Delpit ever straightens his back, to take off running. An inadvertent whistle killed the play. Nothing to review
In fact, both officials are signaling dead ball on the sidelines
Hell, Greedy was 25 yds downfield before there was a whistle. All you are seeing is the ref marking the spot.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:37 pm to The Mick
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The game is over at the time of the whistle/hand signal. We had the ball when that happened.
Then get mad at the official for being old and slow. I don’t know what to tell you. You’re trying to force him to make a call he did not make and never intended to make. You can fuss all you want about the timing of it. He called it an incomplete pass and waved the play dead. Was it the right call? Obviously Tiger fans think not. Was it slower than it needed to be? Probably. But it was his call and since he considered the play dead in his mind possibly before he made the call on the field- there was no fumble recovery going to be allowed.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:37 pm to The Mick
I thought it could be overturned if there was a clear and immediate recovery by the defense? Or is that just a pro rule?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:42 pm to geauxjo
quote:But, an incomplete/complete pass is something that can be reviewed and it wasn't. I don't understand what your point is.
He called it an incomplete pass and waved the play dead.
Are you trying to say that an incomplete pass can't be reviewed/challenged?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:44 pm to The Mick
Watch this video and decide catch/fumble or incompletion.
Youtube video of similar play
How it was ruled is in the description:
The sounds of sweet football is finally back, and this time, in a huge way. Noah Pierre of Champagnat Catholic (FL) absolutely obliterates an opposing receiver, knocking the ball loose for an incompletion off of a textbook, but also powerful, tackle.
Youtube video of similar play
How it was ruled is in the description:
The sounds of sweet football is finally back, and this time, in a huge way. Noah Pierre of Champagnat Catholic (FL) absolutely obliterates an opposing receiver, knocking the ball loose for an incompletion off of a textbook, but also powerful, tackle.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:45 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
quote:I think it's a college rule also but not positive. To me, it doesn't even get that far. At the time of the first hand signal for incomplete, we had already recovered the fumble. Anything before the whistle or hang signal can be reviewed.
I thought it could be overturned if there was a clear and immediate recovery by the defense? Or is that just a pro rule?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:48 pm to WestSideTiger
It's a close one for sure.... what's the point though?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:51 pm to The Mick
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But, an incomplete/complete pass is something that can be reviewed and it wasn't.
But it was reviewed in the booth from what I’ve read.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:54 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:if it was reviewed by the replay official it requires an announcement; that's due to him not being on the field and there being no hand signals to see.
But it was reviewed in the booth from what I’ve read.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:54 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:When it's officially reviewed the ref announces the outcome of the official review.. stands/confirmed/overturned. I've heard people saying the booth "looked at it" but no one has been able to provide any proof or details about that. Regardless, something that crucial should have received a full replay review not some dude glancing at it once while the play clock is ticking for the next down.
But it was reviewed in the booth from what I’ve read.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:57 pm to I20goon
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if it was reviewed by the replay official it requires an announcement; that's due to him not being on the field and there being no hand signals to see.
That’s not true. They review most every play as far as I’m aware. They would only have to make an announcement if the replay booth thought there was evidence to overturn a ruling in the field and decided to initiate an official review.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 5:59 pm to The Mick
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When it's officially reviewed the ref announces the outcome of the official review.. stands/confirmed/overturned. I've heard people saying the booth "looked at it" but no one has been able to provide any proof or details about that. Regardless, something that crucial should have received a full replay review not some dude glancing at it once while the play clock is ticking for the next down.
See my previous post. You wanted an official “potentially wrong field ruling review”. The booth apparently did not see evidence sufficient enough to call for that. Maybe O should have asked for one. Was he able to do so?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 6:04 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:I think this is what has everyone most upset. It was obviously a very close call and that's the exact reason replay was brought into the game - to confirm or correct a close call at a critical point of the game. If someone in the booth glanced at it and determined that quickly it wasn't worthy of review then he was flat arse wrong in his decision.
The booth apparently did not see evidence sufficient enough to call for that.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 6:13 pm to geauxjo
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Then get mad at the official for being old and slow. I don’t know what to tell you. You’re trying to force him to make a call he did not make and never intended to make. You can fuss all you want about the timing of it. He called it an incomplete pass and waved the play dead. Was it the right call? Obviously Tiger fans think not. Was it slower than it needed to be? Probably. But it was his call and since he considered the play dead in his mind possibly before he made the call on the field- there was no fumble recovery going to be allowed.
What he “thinks” the play is prior to blowing the whistle and signaling the calling it dead is irrelevant. The play is not dead until the whistle is blown. A ref can’t go back and say “well I meant to blow it dead earlier”.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 6:15 pm to Mo Jeaux
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That’s not true. They review most every play as far as I’m aware. They would only have to make an announcement if the replay booth thought there was evidence to overturn a ruling in the field and decided to initiate an official review.
And we are back to the “who is making these replay review calls” question. And THAT leads to the questions about the integrity of the SEC altogether.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 6:18 pm to WestSideTiger
Really dude? Posting a high school play for an example? You realize how shitty high school refs are?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 6:20 pm to The Mick
Don't think it was enough of a football move, maybe needed another foot down or longer possession. We got beat, let it go. Our 1st two possessions of the game set the stage.
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