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re: Sternberger drop or fumble? You make the call..... (pics/vid inside)
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:49 pm to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:49 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Why would this matter?
It would matter in regards to wether it was a drop or not. If it was a drop, he'd have dropped it regardless. If it was a catch and then dislodged, which it was, that's a different scenario.
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Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:50 pm to Mo Jeaux
Are you serious? We all know you hate Orgeron. But you honestly saw nothing to indicate the A $M guy may have caught the ball?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:50 pm to Revelator
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It would matter in regards to wether it was a drop or not. If it was a drop, he'd have dropped it regardless. If it was a catch and then dislodged, which it was, that's a different scenario.
Sorry, that's just not how it works.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:51 pm to Mo Jeaux
My entire OP is evidence that’s it’s close enough and at such a critical point in the game that it should be reviewed. Look at the pics, the video, and consider the magnitude of that play.
A guy in the booth deciding the play won’t be reviewed is not the same as the play actually being reviewed.
A guy in the booth deciding the play won’t be reviewed is not the same as the play actually being reviewed.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:51 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Are you serious? We all know you hate Orgeron. But you honestly saw nothing to indicate the A $M guy may have caught the ball?
That's not the standard. Sorry.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:53 pm to Mo Jeaux
Uh,yea it is. Only been doing that since 2005.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:54 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Sorry, that's just not how it works.
He had 2 hand control, turned upfield and made a football move before it was dislodged.
He fumbled it once hit. That's how it was.
This post was edited on 11/25/18 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:55 pm to Revelator
Let him enjoy LSU's loss.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:57 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Secures control of a live ball in flight before the ball touches the ground, and touches the ground in bounds with any part of his body, and then maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc."
This is important because he shifted the ball and put his other hand on it. That’s the equivalent action as a handoff.
It’s a fumble.
We won the game. 8 in a row against A8M
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:58 pm to Revelator
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He had 2 hand control, turned upfield and made a football movie before it was dislodged.
He fumbled it once hit. That's how it was.
That's not the standard. The standard is that the player must maintain "control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent".
I agree that this is subjective, but he loses control after being hit while taking his second step. Again, I agree it's close, but it is not egregious as many of you are making it seem.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 7:58 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Let him enjoy LSU's loss.
Why don't you go frick yourself?
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:02 pm to Mo Jeaux
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That's not the standard. The standard is that the player must maintain "control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, Advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent".
He took at the very least one step and more likely 2.
You failed your argument.
We won. 8 in a row
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:02 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I agree that this is subjective
LSU has been falling on the wrong side of subjective calls too many times this year.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:04 pm to The Mick
It's not even close..There no doubt in my mind that this was a fumble.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:06 pm to AshLSU
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He took at the very least one step
Pretty evident that one step is not sufficient. You can review multiple calls during similar situations to determine this.
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and more likely 2.
And was losing possession while taking that second step.
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You failed your argument.
Well, you and I are both just posters on a message board, so our view and and quarter will get us something worth $0.25.
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We won. 8 in a row
This is pretty stupid.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:08 pm to Athis
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It's not even close.
Yes it is.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:09 pm to Mo Jeaux
Bottom line = it was a close call at a critical time and it wasn’t officially reviewed. You keep saying it was reviewed which is nonsense. Deciding not to have the play reviewed is not the same as actual official review. They look at many different camera angles at different speeds, they might piece frames together determining when possession took place from one camera and when a step or move was made from another angle. They are not hurrying to decide because the play clock is running for the next play.
Even an O hater should be able to admit that play should have been officially reviewed.
Even an O hater should be able to admit that play should have been officially reviewed.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:11 pm to The Mick
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You keep saying it was reviewed which is nonsense.
No it's not.
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Deciding not to have the play reviewed is not the same as actual official review.
You do understand that there are officials in the booth reviewing the plays, right?
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Even an O hater should be able to admit that play should have been officially reviewed.
Oh Jesus Christ.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:12 pm to Mo Jeaux
Even if the call wasn’t that egregious, it was worth a legitimate review. Not a quick look. If you disagree with that, great. Just means you’re wrong.
Posted on 11/25/18 at 8:13 pm to Chet Donnely
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Even if the call wasn’t that egregious, it was worth a legitimate review. Not a quick look. If you disagree with that, great. Just means you’re wrong.
Well, if you think I'm wrong, I've got news for you, bro. 
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