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re: Sports Illustrated - How Good Can LSU Be With Burrow?

Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:38 am to
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:38 am to
You mean when Etling was on the scout team because he was sitting out a year because of transfer eligibility rules?

Keep it comin buddy, I am really enjoying this.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13967 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:39 am to
and Chark?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22154 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:40 am to
I never would have thought we would reach the point where a portion of the fanbase is forced to excuse home losses to Troy. It's sad and pathetic.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14415 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:41 am to
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yeah it’s Arandas fault orgeron doesn’t know which RB is getting the ball on the first snap of the game.


Apparently he didn't meddle enough.

BTW, which RB had the most rushing yards vs LSU last season?

I'm not an O supporter, and have said many times the loss falls squarely on the HC, but you are refusing to see the totality of the situation. I am also a big Aranda fan and actually think he would be a great LSU HC. That doesn't change the fact that he as DC had a miserable performance vs Miss St and was unable to adjust to stop Troy's run game. He also struggled vs ND when they changed QBs (150yds total offense in the 4th). It happens.

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:41 am to
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yeah it’s Arandas fault orgeron doesn’t know which RB is getting the ball on the first snap of the game.


Not much of an argument against the D's performance in the three games. Pretty pitiful actually. I mean did the weather guy know it was going to rain as much as it did the next month? How did that affect the defensive performance?

But, Eaux was meddling and took over the offense. If that is true and he chose to put in Brossette, how did he not know he put him in?
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:42 am to
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bull shite

aranda does not JUST RUN a 3-4

sure its his base package but its jot solely a 3-4


I'm talking about the base package. Yes, on passing downs, Key/Chaisson/Anthony is lined up to rush the passer.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:50 am to
Who is Etling going to throw it to, himself?

My god you just aren’t going to let this go.

LSU had over 40 scholarship athletes who saw the field vs Troy , but yeah the fact that a couple of walk ons saw the field is why LSU lost.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:52 am to
No I see the totality of the situation just fine, LSUs awful offense resulted in LSUs defense being on the field a ton. There’s no adjustments Aranda can make to prevent LSU’s offense from repeatedly punting it back to the other team.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:57 am to
Yeah, I would say that the offense sucking hot garbage is a very compelling argument for why the defense was constantly on the field.
Posted by Broham
Crowley
Member since Feb 2005
18387 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:57 am to
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Key on the pass and let the occasional run get by.

When has a team done this against us? They always stacked the box and didn't worry about the passing game because we never had one.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:02 am to
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the fact that he is arguing that O cant take 45 4 and 5 star athletes and beat a team without a single 4 star player should tell you everything you need to know.




yet your hero had teams that lost to teams they out talented every year...why aren't you complaining that we did not win enough with the talent we had during Miles tenure? The drafts prove we had more talent than all the teams we face...right?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14415 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:04 am to
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No I see the totality of the situation just fine, LSUs awful offense resulted in LSUs defense being on the field a ton. There’s no adjustments Aranda can make to prevent LSU’s offense from repeatedly punting it back to the other team.

There's no doubt the offense played poorly, but how does that account for drives of 10, 11 and 13 plays by Troy, not to mention a 6 play 75 yard TD drive?

Anyway, it's Troy. Why does the D need an excuse of poor offensive output?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:05 am to
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yet your hero had teams that lost to teams they out talented every year...why aren't you complaining that we did not win enough with the talent we had during Miles tenure? The drafts prove we had more talent than all the teams we face...right?


Funny enough, I've seen Rick post that 9 wins wasn't enough and that Les had to go more than once.

The big question is at what point does Edward get held to that same standard?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22154 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:05 am to
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why aren't you complaining that we did not win enough with the talent we had during Miles tenure? The drafts prove we had more talent than all the teams we face...right?


People did complain and he was fired because of it. Here’s to hoping the same fate awaits Orgeron if things continue like they have been (sooner rather than later).
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:06 am to
So now are we back to saying that Miles had talent that he squandered?

I thought Miles had left the cupboard bare for O, which is why O had so much rebuilding to do?



Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:06 am to
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The big question is at what point does Edward get held to that same standard?


he has had 1 year...he will get 3
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:08 am to
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he has had 1 year...he will get 3


This is not what I asked. I asked why a 9 win season is all of a sudden good enough because Edward "needs time".
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:10 am to
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I asked why a 9 win season is all of a sudden good enough because Edward "needs time".


who has said it was good enough? I know I never have...but when you change staffs you do have to give them a little time to implement their style and get players they want.

Do you think he should have been fired after last year?
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:11 am to
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The big question is at what point does Edward get held to that same standard?



I genuinely feel bad for Orgerons successor because whenever he is fired the O fanboys will be irate that he was wrongfully terminated and never support the next guy.
Posted by ThePaleHorse
Houston
Member since Jul 2011
807 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:11 am to
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If we can't beat Troy with fewer DL at LSU, then we are beyond fricked.


No not true.
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