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re: Son is qb at 2A school. Is he SEC caliber or am I looking at smaller schools?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:36 pm to the LSUSaint
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:36 pm to the LSUSaint
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..I say he never plays a down at Texas
very likely possibility
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:40 pm to 777Tiger
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you sho is butthurt over this kid, ain't you?
Not at all. Was in response to other threads panicking because top talent had left the state.
Glad he's at TX
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:42 pm to creamofcornsoup
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his competition 5'10 white guys?
Arch? Yes
My son? No, he's in 4th grade, lol
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:42 pm to 777Tiger
Speaking of SEC caliber, my boy murdered it at the kicking camp.
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:03 pm to the LSUSaint
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:11 pm to Alt26
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So in a world of college recruiting where there are no certainties, it is not unreasonable to look at past history in the family as a gauge for potential success.
I agree with "no certainties"; but shouldn't the same gauge for success have been applied to the sons of Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, etc ... during their college recruitment ? Those kids had an excellent pedigree but didn't do shite in college. Montana's 2 sons bounced around from 5-6 different schools including the youngest who eventually ended up playing at Tulane.
Based on statistics and actual game performances, there are a half dozen kids that are clearly better than Manning. Arch is being projected as one of the greatest QB's in the history of HS recruiting solely based on his name and the NFL careers of his uncles and grandfather. His perfect 1.000 composite rating is 100% "subjective", and his actual real-world numbers (objective findings) are nice but nothing spectacular. If his name was Gerald Huval with no NFL affiliation, nobody would be putting him on a pedestal. I agree it's a no-brainer that any college coach would offer Arch a scholarship. His name alone will have a ripple effect and will pay huge dividends in recruiting. 7 kids have committed to Texas since Arch went public with his verbal just 5 days ago.
FWIW, Arch has the same 1.000 rating that Vince Young did, and Manning isn't in the same stratosphere as VY.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:24 pm to the LSUSaint
A junior and doesn't do the camp circuit? Answer is Division III.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:25 pm to the LSUSaint
I kind of feel sorry for Arch in a way. He isn't the one putting all this hype on himself. He isn't the one saying he's a top 3 all time recruit.
It's absurd what those people are doing to him.
It's absurd what those people are doing to him.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:27 pm to geauxtigers33
quote:What do the statistics say?
Take off the white part. That’s not important at all.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:28 pm to the LSUSaint
how many times can he rep 225?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:29 pm to dmatt2021
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many camps as possible
Tom, Dick and Harry do this and they are more than willing to take all your money.
At such camp, If he impresses the coaches, he will get an invite to a more selective or private engagement with coaches. If a 4 or 5 star, whole different camp invite/universe.
Have seen kids go to as many camps as possible and leave wrong impression, especially those FR and SOPHs. Dads pushing shotgun approach too early can bite the kid.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 1:49 pm to Got Blaze
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I agree with "no certainties"; but shouldn't the same gauge for success have been applied to the sons of Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, etc ... during their college recruitment ? Those kids had an excellent pedigree but didn't do shite in college. Montana's 2 sons bounced around from 5-6 different schools including the youngest who eventually ended up playing at Tulane.
Arch "may not do shite in college". No one knows for sure. But unlike the others you mentioned, there are now TWO generations of success in the family. Father, then two sons. That doesn't mean there is a 100% certainty the 3rd generation will be just as good. But you can argue the odds of him being so are more probable than not based upon the fact 3 of the men in that family all were great QBs.
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If his name was Gerald Huval with no NFL affiliation, nobody would be putting him on a pedestal.
Of course not. Because there would be no pedestal established by his lineage and last name. It's not different than many things in life. If others in your family have had tremendous success you get the benefit of the doubt you will too.
Whether he should be the "No. 1 player" in the country is wholly subjective. But given the importance of the QB position and the track record of tremendous success by other members of his family that played QB, I bet if you took a survey of coaches he would be the #1 most desired player.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:06 pm to the LSUSaint
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No...this was to show how bland Arch Mannings stats were playing against low competition.
And he doesn't camp. How is he the TOP recruit in America?
You are 100% correct. I posted what I saw last year in the playoffs when Newman played Lafayette Christian. Manning was terrible and I don’t mean a little bit.
He threw for 8 of 17 for 51 yards and an Interception. He directed the Newman offense for 151 yards total. He was confused, slow, and inaccurate all night.
LCA beat Newman 49-7.
Manning wasn’t even All-District in his
2A District.
Even with the Manning name this is laughable that he is supposedly the number one QB & overall player in the country.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:09 pm to Lester Earl
Texas
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:09 pm to the LSUSaint
I don't want to be rude but 210 ypg in 2A is not SEC caliber unless he's physically a freak
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:09 pm to the LSUSaint
Can you tell us a name and what school so we can see if you’re full of shite or not?
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:11 pm to saintslsupels
He doesn't have a son, he's posting Arch Manning's stats to prove that Arch isn't going to be good?
Idk a lot of grown men are crazy obsessed with the Manning's on here.
Idk a lot of grown men are crazy obsessed with the Manning's on here.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:24 pm to dmatt2021
quote:He's not going to live up to any of the hype and they'll blame him instead of blaming themselves for hyping up a mid tier QB.
Never looked at Arch’s stats because I have seen him play in person.And he was decent but idk how they come up with his ranking unless he just test off the charts in private work outs.I think his actual ranking should prolly be 3 star with high upside because of his family name.But who knows maybe he lives up to the hype,many dont
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:28 pm to geauxtigers33
Well it matters to him, the mailman has been making multiple stops at his house for 19 years straight
Posted on 6/28/22 at 2:50 pm to Solo Cam
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don't want to be rude but 210 ypg in 2A is not SEC caliber unless he's physically a freak
Agreed. Arch Mannings stats and he is in no way a physical freak
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