re: Some of the specific cultural "issues" Mari Fuentes-Martin finds troubling...

EZE,
do you see anything circular about your argument, which is, essentially , as follows:
You are a liberal.
No, this has nothing to do with liberalism.
Ah ha, you deny you are a liberal, and denial is a trait of liberalism (as is, presumably, dishonesty), so you PROVEN you are a liberal.

Do you realize people on the left do this all the time to people on the right, with equal validity?
Damn!
You guys need to get out more.

Exactly what I would expect. You are incapable of substantively refuting my argument, so you deflect, condescend and slur. White flag of surrender duly noted.

Has anyone successfully sued a university for an alcohol related incident? The ones you listed don't say if any amount was awarded, and the Cornell one was just the fraternity.

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Ah ha, you deny you are a liberal, and denial is a trait of liberalism (as is, presumably, dishonesty), so you PROVEN you are a liberal.

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As I stated, you are most likely a "liberal" in the true sense, while Pimp is describing Progressives that have hijacked the term "liberal".

I didn't read the whole thread.

I just go with what I know when it comes to Progressives, their approach and lack of accountability.

Make no mistake, these actions are a product of SJW/Progressive crowd at work.

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Before further exploration of Fuentes- Martin's "philosophical motivations", and attributing them to "liberalism", you might give some thought to learning what the term means, instead of using it as a omnibus pejorative, like most other ill- informed posters here.

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Or better yet, YOU might want to go back to page six of this thread , where anticipating a guy just like you going all moist when confronted with the term 'liberal" like a sophomore poli sci student, I clearly discerned between the two meanings of the word "liberal": LINK

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It is modern American Liberalism (the precise opposite of the 18th Century American Liberalism that our country was founded on) that is currently working overtime to institute Speech Codes, safe spaces,and otherwise INFANTILIZE college students.

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I have forgotten more this morning about Classical American Liberalism than you ever knew. I would suggest you spend less time condescending to those who have lapped you, and more time engaging other people's arguments honestly, and without deflecting with semantics that only serve to make you look dishonest and squirrely. You have embarrassed yourself here, sir.

Can we all quit arguing and collectively realize how bad Mari Fuentes sucks?

Here's the problem:

Assistant Director Office of Multicultural Student Affairs (1991-1994)
• Counseled minority students as they faced the academic, social, spiritual, and emotional
adjustments during their studies at Notre Dame.
• Facilitated cultural simulations exercises and developed educational programs on cultural
diversity and sensitivity used in retreats, training sessions, residence halls, round-table
discussions, panel-forums and other modes of discussion.

F. King needs to realize he is in a red state. His best friend may be BHObama but he needs to move on or get with the program. Leave our traditions alone. They are not hurting anyone.

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Any students on here that can post how the meeting is going / went?

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Far removed from my student days BUT I watched a portion of it on periscope. Looked to me like many were asking for "clarification" of things and weren't trying to fight it.

The word "logistical/logistics" was used RATHER OFTEN in the answers.

A couple of people made great arguments but in my opinion many seemed "resigned" to the fact that something is really going to happen. (Remember Obamacare bill?? We'll have to pass it to see what's in it)

-- sounded like all organized tailgates need to be registered; even if you're not on the parade grounds
-- they seem to want to limit how much alcohol one can have with them
-- third party vendors but when asked there is ONE on the "approved list" ... and very expensive if you only have 4 or 5 "members" getting together
-- set up in "your approved spot" by x time on Friday and can't go back until 8 am Saturday ... MUST be done tailgating by a certain time prior to kick off
-- one student DID say that there weren't 50 calls per game ... like .3% of the student section required assistance (they had utilized campus police reports)

I'll stop there ... how in the hell is ANY of this going to be policed????? I'm all for busting minors ... the law is the law. But shite, I've got a grad school kid and a son about to start college ... the younger one will never know what student tailgating is like (I'm not advocating binge drinking and needing hospitalization)

There was a link to her email address at LSU but mine was returned as not deliverable. What is the email addy that has apparently been used successfully?