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So Woodward locked up BK with a single 45-minute conversation
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:51 pm
That's what Kelly just said. Wow.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:54 pm to TDlurker
does this count as an interview
lsu fans won't be happy if not
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:56 pm to TDlurker
Just think about that for a minute and the time frame of firing Orgeron and when Scott had a convo with BK.
How could anyone think he was our first choice? Most on this board were clinging to the speculation. That this was in the works for a while, BK refused and Scott had to circle back. Now ppl are saying it was being negotiated with his agent.
SW had to lock this up last minute because Riley feel through and the available options were already signed.
How could anyone think he was our first choice? Most on this board were clinging to the speculation. That this was in the works for a while, BK refused and Scott had to circle back. Now ppl are saying it was being negotiated with his agent.
SW had to lock this up last minute because Riley feel through and the available options were already signed.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:57 pm to TDlurker
Pobably alot more minutes with his agent talking before that 45 min conversation.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:58 pm to Doby
Seems pretty obvious that Rileys agent was creating the smoke for his own financial interest. Sounds like we had our guy for a while.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:59 pm to Doby
quote:
SW had to lock this up last minute because Riley feel through and the available options were already signed.
Riley also said he didnt talk to any other school beside USC.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:59 pm to TDlurker
quote:
So Woodward locked up BK with a single 45-minute conversation
I wonder what date that conversation took place.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:01 pm to Doby
quote:It's been reported that they spoke back in October, so the implication is that BK was on board back then, and then it was just a matter of negotiating the financial arrangement with his agent.
How could anyone think he was our first choice?
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:03 pm to GeauxBoi
quote:he's parsing his words. Maybe "Riley" didn't speak to any other schools, but his agent did.
Riley also said he didnt talk to any other school beside USC
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:04 pm to Doby
quote:
Just think about that for a minute and the time frame of firing Orgeron and when Scott had a convo with BK.
How could anyone think he was our first choice? Most on this board were clinging to the speculation. That this was in the works for a while, BK refused and Scott had to circle back. Now ppl are saying it was being negotiated with his agent.
SW had to lock this up last minute because Riley feel through and the available options were already signed.
Hey, dumbass, ADs don't talk to the actual coach first. They go through agents. Please keep your stupid opinions to yourself next time.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:05 pm to TDlurker
10 years and $100 million will lock up LOTS of people...
especially when asking them to come coach HERE>
especially when asking them to come coach HERE>
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:05 pm to TDlurker
quote:
That's what Kelly just said. Wow.
It's what he has to say and it may be true from a Kelly to SW standpoint. But backchanneling and his agent had to be in the mix well before this past week.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:07 pm to atltiger6487
quote:
he's parsing his words. Maybe "Riley" didn't speak to any other schools, but his agent did
And maybe SW locked up Kelly along time ago by talking to his agent and then closed it with the 45 min phone call to Kelly. Thats was my point. Most things are through agents until the deal is pretty much done.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:07 pm to GeauxBoi
quote:Bingo
alot more minutes with his agent talking before that 45 min conversation.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:08 pm to Kingpenm3
quote:If you look from a certain perspective, "a single conversation" is always the answer to this question= for any job.quote:
So Woodward locked up BK with a single 45-minute conversation
I wonder what date that conversation took place.
Go talk to Nick Saban.
He will either NOT be interested and tell you to go away, and refuse your follow-ups; or he WILL be interested. If he keeps taking your calls and you work out a deal, it all comes back to that first conversation that opens the door.
Kelly listened, was interested enough to continue talking. A deal was worked out. He didn't flat-out refuse and was worn down, he was open to it.
He also almost certainly didn't just say "wow, you know what? That sounds good. What the frick, I'm going to toss my decade at Notre Dame into the garbage can and take this job tomorrow".
Now, a guy like Napier might have done that when Florida called. We don't know how serious anything was at Auburn in the past, but he got a chance to move from the Sun Belt to the SEC. He probably looked things over, and told his agent to get the deal ready before Florida changed their minds.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:09 pm to TDlurker
I'm surprised it took that long if Woodward opened with $10 million per year, with a chance up to $15 million/yr. That nearly quadrupled what he was making at ND.
The next words out of BK's mouth should have been "Where do I sign?". 5 minutes and done.
The next words out of BK's mouth should have been "Where do I sign?". 5 minutes and done.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:14 pm to Scoob
Just a reminder, Kelly & Riley have the same Agent. This was most likely locked in early. The Agent isn't just parsing the opportunity for 1 of his coaches, but all of his coaches.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:20 pm to TDlurker
Jamie Howard said on the radio yesterday that when he and his son visited ND last month Brian Kelly told him that Scott Woodward had contacted him. It was clearly more than one 45 min convo a week ago. This thing has been in the works for at least a month.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:21 pm to TDlurker
I would be willing to be anything I own that they have had conversations in the offseason. Maybe not specifically about the LSU job per se, but I bet that's where a lot of the vetting and philosophical conversations happen. I don't think Kelly is lying about the conversation with Woodward, but I also don't believe that was enough for Woodward to sell him on his vision for the program. How many times did Kelly talk about alignment? There's no way he could be confident about their alignment in a phone conversation while he was on the road recruiting in California.
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