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re: So who’s really better? Brennan or Narcisse?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:30 am to STRIPES
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:30 am to STRIPES
I agree with you STRIPES. I don't get how LN could be considered the 2nd best QB coming out of Louisiana when he hardly touched the field for his last 2 upper classman years. Here's the thing, nobody has any idea how LN will play. He has 2 whole years of high school experience. That's it. Maybe he's great and the next Heisman winner, be it's all speculation.
I do believe he will benefit greatly from the red shirt. In the end, I don't care who is the starter as long as they tear it up and make watching football fun again.
Both probably have a lot of growing into the job to do.
I do believe he will benefit greatly from the red shirt. In the end, I don't care who is the starter as long as they tear it up and make watching football fun again.
Both probably have a lot of growing into the job to do.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:36 am to STRIPES
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Myles Brennan is going to be the QB. Dome of y'all just want a black QB.
Okay you white supremacist. Whatever.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:48 am to SilverStallion
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Narcisse is the starter next year. If he can run and throw like everyone says he can then it would just be a no brainer that he gives us a better chance to win games.
Of course this all hinges on his ability to grasp the offense.
Of course this all hinges on his ability to grasp the offense.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:39 pm to STRIPES
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Myles Brennan is going to be the QB.
How do you know that? From the 20 something passes he threw this year? None of us have seen enough to say that. Also, like the other guy said, I think Canada will push for a dual threat next year. He had designed running plays for Etling. QB Peterman was the 2nd leading ball carrier at Pitt and third leading rusher while averaging 4 yards a carry under Canada.
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Dome of y'all just want a black QB.
No honestly, I just want a dual threat in a spread offense. A good dual threat is by far the most dangerous player in football. I don't care if he's black, white, gray, or rainbow, if he can run and throw really well, I'd be ecstatic. I would have loved to have Chad Kelly or Baker Mayfield in Canada's offense.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:18 pm to Datbayoubengal
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I just want a dual threat in a spread offense
You’ll be waiting awhile then. Canada doesn’t run a spread offense.
I get that so many of you think the dual threat QB is the most dangerous player in college football, and to a certain extent you’re right. What none of you seem to get is just how rare those players are. Not every dual threat kid is going to be Deshawn Watson or Cam Newton or even Jalen fricken Hurts (who doesn’t run a spread offense FYI). The most dangerous player in college football a QB who can throw AND run. If they are inaccurate or can’t digest a defense, they won’t be worth a damn. The Deshawn Watson mold is the perfect college QB. Is LN that type of player or is he the Lamar Jackson type? If he’s the Lamar Jackson type, he’ll get demolished in the SEC with the defenses we have to play. If he’s the Deshwen Watson mold, then he could be very dangerous. Thing is, every report you hear about him says he’s an inaccurate passer. It’s extremely hard to teach accuracy.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:30 pm to Space Cowboy
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Not to mention, that Narcisse is a much better athlete than the skinny slow kid is and also has the strongest arm on the team. Indeed, if I were a gambler, I'd put my money on Narcisse long before I would put it on the skinny slow kid.
“Skinny slow kid?”
Why do you have to bash LSU players?
You really aren’t an LSU fan, are you?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:30 pm to SilverStallion
Brennan, stronger arm, better passer, better grasp of the playbook
Narcisse, strong runner, average passer, struggles with the playbook
Narcisse, strong runner, average passer, struggles with the playbook
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:34 pm to SilverStallion
Who knows how they develop when equally healthy but I can tell you that people have completely forgotten how talented Narcisse is. If he is completely recovered and healthy, Brennan will have a tough time beating him out. A healthy Narcisse can give a defense too many problems imo. If he is healthy he is an elite talent.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:07 pm to ExpoTiger
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"people have completely forgotten how talented Narcisse is"
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How can you even know how really talented he is at this point in his career? Becsuse of what he did in 10th grade? Because of what he did in 3 playoff games in the 11th grade or maybe the games he played in the 12th grade is what makes you think this way. And More talented than Brennan in what way? Can run faster? Maybe when he is not rehabbing an injury. Better Passing accuracy? Doubt it and hasn't shown it yet. Arm strength? yet to be seen. Possibly, but just because you can throw a baseball 95mph that doesn't make you a pitcher! Baseball? No way, Brennan could play baseball for the Tigers right now if he wanted to. He's that good, ask around. Basketball? Ok I'll give you that one. So Lowell's body of work is just not there for someone to back up that kind of statement. Oh, I forgot he has an NFL body. Well so does about half the people in any given gym these days but that does not mean the can play football and better yet QB in the SEC. I have seen both Narcisse and Brennan play live on more than a few occasions. I have seen them work out together, I've seen them practice together and I am basing my comments on real life observation. Lowell has potential no doubt but Brennan is the complete quintessential pro style passing quarterback package that LSU hasn't had for a very long time. Don't allow yourselves to discard him because he's a skinny white boy. So was Peyton Manning!
"people have completely forgotten how talented Narcisse is"
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How can you even know how really talented he is at this point in his career? Becsuse of what he did in 10th grade? Because of what he did in 3 playoff games in the 11th grade or maybe the games he played in the 12th grade is what makes you think this way. And More talented than Brennan in what way? Can run faster? Maybe when he is not rehabbing an injury. Better Passing accuracy? Doubt it and hasn't shown it yet. Arm strength? yet to be seen. Possibly, but just because you can throw a baseball 95mph that doesn't make you a pitcher! Baseball? No way, Brennan could play baseball for the Tigers right now if he wanted to. He's that good, ask around. Basketball? Ok I'll give you that one. So Lowell's body of work is just not there for someone to back up that kind of statement. Oh, I forgot he has an NFL body. Well so does about half the people in any given gym these days but that does not mean the can play football and better yet QB in the SEC. I have seen both Narcisse and Brennan play live on more than a few occasions. I have seen them work out together, I've seen them practice together and I am basing my comments on real life observation. Lowell has potential no doubt but Brennan is the complete quintessential pro style passing quarterback package that LSU hasn't had for a very long time. Don't allow yourselves to discard him because he's a skinny white boy. So was Peyton Manning!
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:12 pm to Cajun Catfish
Because he’s been a grown man physically since his freshman year. It’s not like everyone is making it up. He has played football. Yes he got injured. That doesn’t mean what it used to. A good coach can watch about 5 minutes of LN’s tape and know he’s watching an elite player. I never said that I preferred one over the other. I prefer the one that plays better. I think they both have great skill sets but we still know next to nothing about how it will translate
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:16 pm to SilverStallion
Recruiting numbers don't really matter for Qb's as they are the most difficult position to predict out of high school. Brennan has played the most and when he has played he looks like the real deal, just a year or so away from being ready. Narcisse, who knows, he has played one snap so far and it was a negative play.
My guess though is that Narcisse isn't nearly as good because 1 it would seem unlikely to have 2 legitimate qbs on the roster after years of having 0, and 2. the fact he is the 3rd string qb behind Brennan.
My guess though is that Narcisse isn't nearly as good because 1 it would seem unlikely to have 2 legitimate qbs on the roster after years of having 0, and 2. the fact he is the 3rd string qb behind Brennan.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:19 pm to SilverStallion
I saw Narcisse on the sideline against Arkansas and honestly thought it was Devin White for a second
No idea how he could be a good QB, looks like a MLB
No idea how he could be a good QB, looks like a MLB
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:24 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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You really aren’t an LSU fan, are you?
Compared to Narcisse, he is slow. Nonetheless, why do you demonize LSU's head coach? You really aren't an LSU fan, are you?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:33 pm to SilverStallion
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you're telling me not even Dan Mullen (who only has 3 scholarship qb's) didn't even extend an offer to brennan? that seems odd for the #1 qb in your own state.
Dan likes the big dual threat guys in the mold of Tebow.
He'd nut his pants to have Narcisse.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 4:42 pm to RockoRou
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Brennan, stronger arm, better passer, better grasp of the playbook
Narcisse, strong runner, average passer, struggles with the playbook
No, Narcisse has the strongest arm on the team. Meanwhile, you don't know if Brennan has a better grasp of the playbook or that Narcisse struggles with the playbook. Instead, you are assuming and hoping because you are a homer and the last thing you want is a legit quarterback competition since Narcisse is not only much bigger, faster, and a lot stronger, but he also is a much better athlete as well.
Furthermore, you have no clue who is the best passer. Again, you are guessing, assuming, and hoping because again you are a homer.
Not to mention, passing isn't everything and it's something that can be improved on like in the case of Fitzgerald and Jalen Hurts. Not to mention, Ohio state has won a lot of games with a mobile dual threat quarterback that can barely pass the past couple of years.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 6:33 pm to Space Cowboy
Regardless of the position you want to ake in this debate Narcisse has NOT DONE ANYTHING ON THE FIELD OF PLAY in the last 3 years anywhere close to what Brennan has accomplished and proven. Therefore, your entire position in this discussion is based on nothing but conjecture and your personal desire to see your player do well. I GET IT!! But don't present your position as a matter of fact when it is anything but fact. It is your desired dream to have Lowell be the starting QB at LSU. Which is not based on a real hypothesis of actual accomplishments but yet on your blind desire to see him succeed. Again, I GET IT!! But consider this, he has played in less that 6 games in his two final years of HS and he has been injured in both of those years. So your attempt to persuade people that Lowell is the best QB at LSU is strictly based on your emotion and not actual facts. Case in point, Myles Brennan beat out 18 other QBs to advanced from the Elite 11 to the Nike Finals in Oregon and Lowell was sent home. That competition was strictly based on arm strength, accuracy, release and a grasp of the fundamentals of reading defenses and throwing the ball accurately and effectively. Know this: Brennan will start next year for LSU, bring it to the bank, book it, write it down, CASE CLOSED!
Posted on 11/13/17 at 6:42 pm to Cajun Catfish
the coaches, who have more knowledge and are getting paid veeery well to make those decisions, shall make them in due time... until then ... unless you are on the coaching staff it means little.
Relax, we have a season to finish.
BTW, I am pretty sure that the coaches will not assign higher points because one is of one race or another.
Relax, we have a season to finish.
BTW, I am pretty sure that the coaches will not assign higher points because one is of one race or another.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 11/13/17 at 6:48 pm to Space Cowboy
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demonize LSU's head coach? You really aren't an LSU fan, are you?
I was using your own logic against you. I wasn’t actually accusing you of not being a fan, I was pointing out your hypocrisy, and now you fell right into it with this gem.
There’s nothing wrong with valid criticism of a player (until it comes to mocking them)
OR a coach. I just found it interesting that you don’t apply the same standards to both.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 6:57 pm to ibleedprplngld
WTF are you talking about.
#1 Canada does run a spread offense, it's limited because of Etling's ability as a runner and thrower.
Please Educate yourself: LINK
#2 None of the DT QBs you listed were great a "digesting a defenses" they used their mobility/athleticism to make big plays.
#1 Canada does run a spread offense, it's limited because of Etling's ability as a runner and thrower.
Please Educate yourself: LINK
#2 None of the DT QBs you listed were great a "digesting a defenses" they used their mobility/athleticism to make big plays.
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