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So O is winning when he has massive problems on D and when he had massive problems on O
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:33 am
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:33 am
Is O the best coach in college football?
Saban wins when he has advantages in all 3 phases.
Appears to the same with Swinney.
Saban wins when he has advantages in all 3 phases.
Appears to the same with Swinney.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 7:35 am
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:36 am to Meauxjeaux
He’s doing a damn fine job. Anyone that says any different just never liked him, and probably will never like him.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:38 am to Meauxjeaux
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and when he had massive problems on O
9-4 and 10-3 got the other coach fired, so not sure if you really want to consider this "winning" in this argument
O is doing great, but don't use hyperbole to set people up to try and do some "gotcha" argument
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 7:39 am
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:41 am to Salmon
Smashing into 8 man fronts repeatedly got the last guy fired.......
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:42 am to Dlab2013
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Smashing into 8 man fronts repeatedly got the last guy fired.......
No.
The losses are what got Miles fired. Obviously the offense resulted in the losses, but if Miles was winning championships by smashing into 8 man fronts, he would still be coaching at LSU.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:45 am to Meauxjeaux
Holy shite you can’t be this stupid can you? SABAN always had advantages in all 3 phases at Toledo? Michigan state? LSU? Ur beyond dumb. He’s the best coach in nation. Has a great d in Cleveland. Had highly ranked defenses in Miami.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:55 am to Fat Bastard
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SABAN always had advantages in all 3 phases at Toledo? Michigan state?
Saban was always a good coach but he wasn’t that highly thought of, or supposed to be the next big thing, when he came out of Michigan State. He wasn’t even one of LSU’s top choices and they got him by chance actually. He ended up being great when he got the schools (LSU and Alabama) to give him complete control and started getting the best players and putting them in his system of control.
Part of the reason he didn’t do as well at Miami is because you can’t control the players as easily and he didn’t have an advantage in personnel.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:57 am to Fat Bastard
You are right.
I forgot to throw in the REC, so Saban wins when he has advantages in all four phases.
I forgot to throw in the REC, so Saban wins when he has advantages in all four phases.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:59 am to Meauxjeaux
A good coach eliminates the issues.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:07 am to Salmon
The other coach was going 9-4 and 8-5 his last 2 seasons and clearly the team was regressing that is why he was fired
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:09 am to Meauxjeaux
O is winning with Miles' players? 
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:10 am to Meauxjeaux
Can’t penalize Saban and swinney for building teams that have advantages n all 3 phases.
O deserves his praise absolutely. He fixed the offense in the off season. Now it’s time to fix the defense.
O deserves his praise absolutely. He fixed the offense in the off season. Now it’s time to fix the defense.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:11 am to Big dub
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The other coach was going 9-4 and 8-5 his last 2 seasons and clearly the team was regressing that is why he was fired
Uh, we were 9-3 in '15 with a cancelled game against McNeese... so essentially 10-3. I would call a 2 game improvement from the '14 record the opposite of regressing, but I don't have an agenda.
inb4 someone says I think Les shouldn't have been fired.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 8:15 am
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:13 am to Salmon
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mashing into 8 man fronts, he would still be coaching at LSU.
Whole point is, he wouldn't be winning doing this stupidity.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:14 am to RedTigerRulz
No shite.
But the whole point is that all anyone cares about is wins vs losses at the end of the day.
But the whole point is that all anyone cares about is wins vs losses at the end of the day.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:30 am to Meauxjeaux
He's doing a great job. He does NOT have massive problems on defense. LSU has a good defense. Our main defensive problem is that our fans have catastrophe syndrome, and they need something to panic about.
Our second problem on defense is that we only have one good safety on the roster and he's injured. We are patching it together with Stevens, a linebacker, Vincent, a corner who is also injured, Flott, a freshman 160 pound corner, and Cam Lewis, a journeyman safety.
Our third problem on defense, and one we share with 90% of the defenses, is that we can't get a great pass rush with our front four.
These problems cause us to go from great to good. I think good is working just fine, and anyway, there's no sense whining about it because it can't be radically improved this year.
Our second problem on defense is that we only have one good safety on the roster and he's injured. We are patching it together with Stevens, a linebacker, Vincent, a corner who is also injured, Flott, a freshman 160 pound corner, and Cam Lewis, a journeyman safety.
Our third problem on defense, and one we share with 90% of the defenses, is that we can't get a great pass rush with our front four.
These problems cause us to go from great to good. I think good is working just fine, and anyway, there's no sense whining about it because it can't be radically improved this year.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:47 am to Meauxjeaux
I was cautious about the hire. I believed he could probably have some success, but wasn't sure about sustainability. We will see how the season plays out, but the ride has been awesome.
As great as this season has been, here's what should get fans salivating. Recruiting has elevated to a level that we haven't seen before. I know we've had a #1 class before, but the old rules allowing you to recruit more players than team X skew some of those rankings. From a class average standpoint we are going to field our highest ranking ever and we are still moving some players out to make room for elite players asking to be let in. We are truly a national brand right now and we are capitalizing on it.
The coaches, admin and players all deserve credit for making this happen and I don't see 2019 being a 1 off great season. That doesn't mean we are going to win a natty every year, but we are on the verge of being a truly dominant national team.
As great as this season has been, here's what should get fans salivating. Recruiting has elevated to a level that we haven't seen before. I know we've had a #1 class before, but the old rules allowing you to recruit more players than team X skew some of those rankings. From a class average standpoint we are going to field our highest ranking ever and we are still moving some players out to make room for elite players asking to be let in. We are truly a national brand right now and we are capitalizing on it.
The coaches, admin and players all deserve credit for making this happen and I don't see 2019 being a 1 off great season. That doesn't mean we are going to win a natty every year, but we are on the verge of being a truly dominant national team.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 8:51 am
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:49 am to Meauxjeaux
This is how I picture the OP starting this thread.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:56 am to LNCHBOX
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o essentially 10-3. I would call a 2 game improvement from the '14 record the opposite of regressing, but I don't have an agenda.
but you do....even if you dont want to admit it....to minimize any criticism of Miles.
Also love the way everyone counts that McNeese game even though we never played it.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 10:12 am to Salmon
going 9-4 and 10-3 isnt what got Miles fired, it was going 8-5 and then going 4-5 in his last 9 games here combined with running an offense that was going to give us limited chance of any future success, along with a lot of other problems that were starting to catch up to him
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