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re: So how many people would blame the coach if that was an LSU runner?
Posted on 4/5/12 at 9:50 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/5/12 at 9:50 pm to Lester Earl
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and the coach let him leave as they both watched what they thought was a HR
That is what I saw.
This post was edited on 4/5/12 at 9:50 pm
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 9:50 pm to Honkus
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Coach shoulda been all over DPs shite as soon as he left the bag yelling "TAG TAG TAG!!!"
He should have been screaming this at the top of his lungs once the ball was hit.
shite a good 3rd base coach would have gone up the line a few feet between home plate and the player to make sure he knew what he was doing
Posted on 4/5/12 at 9:50 pm to Prominentwon
Why is the coach even there?
Posted on 4/5/12 at 9:52 pm to Swat5
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Anyone who thinks that was the coach's fault has never played an inning of baseball ..
It's both of their faults.
But the coach is there for a reason. To reiterate the right decision. Especially on a slow developing play like that WITH A RUNNER ON 3rd BASE!
He's the last line of defense in that instance. He dropped the ball.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 9:54 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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That is what I saw.
yeah the correct baseball play is to handcuff the runner to the bag until the ball is caught.
if you dont have cuffs you stand infront of him so when you cant predict the idiot will leave on his own for no reason you can physically force him back to the bag.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 9:56 pm to Lester Earl
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He should have been screaming this at the top of his lungs once the ball was hit.
As soon as the ball was hit the player went straight back to the bag. At that point the coach was looking at the ball.
He could have done more, sure. Hindsight is 20/20, but the player fricked that up big time. That is little league shite.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 9:56 pm to Lester Earl
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shite a good 3rd base coach would have gone up the line a few feet between home plate and the player to make sure he knew what he was doing
Yep, he was too busy watching the ball to notice Piggot drifting off the bag. DP initially went back for the tag, but ventured off toward home for no apparent reason.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 9:59 pm to LsuTool
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As soon as the ball was hit the player went straight back to the bag. At that point the coach was looking at the ball.
And he didnt yell for him to return to the bag until Katz caught the ball. The coach lost focus. I realize he went back to tag originally, but it should be 2nd nature to that coach to still yell to the player to tag.
As I said a good coach will go a few feet down the line to make sure the player sees and hears him. Not get caught up watching the ball.
That especially goes in the 9th inning with the tying run on 3rd. Your job is to take care of that player on 3rd. Not watch a potential HR
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He could have done more, sure. Hindsight is 20/20, but the player fricked that up big time. That is little league shite.
Yeah its little league shite. But this isn't pro ball either. Caught up in a big spot in the game, sometimes you lose your senses. That's why they have base coaches. Even if you know what you are doing, there are still there to reinforce the right move.
This post was edited on 4/5/12 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:00 pm to Lester Earl
Lester..that was all on the player. .. That should be a given.. The coach should never have to tell a player on 3 rd base to tag on a deep fly ball with 1 or less outs.. That is just a given
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:02 pm to Honkus
I guess 3rd base coaches are no longer allowed to watch deep fly balls with a runner on 3rd...
If yall wanna get technical about it the correct procedure for that is: the players goes to the bag as soon as it is hit. At that point the player does not watch the baseball, he watches the coach. Then when the RF catches the ball the coaches gives either a signal or verbally tells the runner to go as soon as the ball is caught. The runner should be looking at the 3rd base coach for the signal or at home plate waiting on the verbal command. The coach tracks the ball, which is what he was doing.
If yall wanna get technical about it the correct procedure for that is: the players goes to the bag as soon as it is hit. At that point the player does not watch the baseball, he watches the coach. Then when the RF catches the ball the coaches gives either a signal or verbally tells the runner to go as soon as the ball is caught. The runner should be looking at the 3rd base coach for the signal or at home plate waiting on the verbal command. The coach tracks the ball, which is what he was doing.
This post was edited on 4/5/12 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:03 pm to Prominentwon
Without a doubt the third base coach is partially to blame.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:04 pm to tigerskin
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When the ball goes up in the air u scream at them to get back and tag. That part was done. Coach then changed his focus to the right fielder and totally didnt expect the guy to wander off the bag. Yes the coach should still be screaming get back but that is 8 year old stuff.
This!!
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:04 pm to Prominentwon
that's the first thing I thought after that play.. that 3rd base coach should have never let that happen.. but in the excitement of the game, it's understandable I guess.. anyone who's played the game past middle school understands this
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:04 pm to Swat5
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The coach should never have to tell a player on 3 rd base to tag on a deep fly ball with 1 or less outs.. That is just a given
He shouldn't have to tell him anythign, but the reason he is there is to make sure he does the right thing.
are you telling me, had you been a 3rd base coach, on an SEC team, the #1 team in the nation...we are talking bit time college baseball.... with the tying run on 3rd in that situation, you would have handled it the same exact way?
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:05 pm to Swat5
It appeared he yelled tag and then was watching to yell go when the rf caught it. He was surprised when he saw the runner already down the line.
This 100% on the player.
This 100% on the player.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:06 pm to Lester Earl
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it should be 2nd nature to that coach to still yell to the player to tag.
the player did tag. What is the coach supposed to do? Throw his arse to the ground and hog tie him to the bag? This is big boy baseball.
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As I said a good coach will go a few feet down the line to make sure the player sees and hears him. Not get caught up watching the ball.
he will go down the line and give a signal to the runner that the ball is caught OR he will stay close and yell when the ball is caught to the runner.
The coach tracking the fly ball is not a mistake on the coaches part.
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But this isn't pro ball either
We'll maybe his minor league coach will teach him the rules of taggin on fly balls.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:07 pm to Lester Earl
I would not tell him to tag since he tagged and then inexplicably decided to drift off the bag.. Totally on the player
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:08 pm to STEVED00
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It appeared he yelled tag and then was watching to yell go when the rf caught it. He was surprised when he saw the runner already down the line.
This 100% on the player.
I didnt watch it all in slow motion but that's what it looked like to me.
the kid went back to the bag and then the coach tracked the ball and didnt realize he left the bag until it was too late...
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:09 pm to LsuTool
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That is all on the fricking player. A damn 10 yr old knows to tag on that shite.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:22 pm to Swat5
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I would not tell him to tag since he tagged and then inexplicably decided to drift off the bag.. Totally on the player
you should yell to him to tag before he even starts to tag. A good 3rd base coach would. And he'd say it over and over until the player is on the bag in position to tag.
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