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re: So how many people would blame the coach if that was an LSU runner?
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:25 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:25 pm to Lester Earl
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you should yell to him to tag before he even starts to tag. A good 3rd base coach would. And he'd say it over and over until the player is on the bag in position to tag
If the 3rd base coaches WATCHES the player go back to the bag and tag, what is he supposed to do at that point? Keep yelling at him over and over? This isnt T ball.
If you're coaching third and your runner goes back to the bag to tag up, your going to pickup the baseball at that point.
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Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:26 pm to LsuTool
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the player did tag. What is the coach supposed to do? Throw his arse to the ground and hog tie him to the bag? This is big boy baseball.
hang around some good coaches and see how they handle that type of situation. I have, and Ive seen the effectiveness.
I obviously cant mimic it through a computer. But you yell for him to tag until he is settled on the bag ready to tag. If you are yelling for him to tag. That way there is no speculation. It's imprinted in the players mind that he has to get to the bag and tag no matter what. Even if he is going back to the bag, you make sure you tell him to tag. It should be 2nd nature.
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The coach tracking the fly ball is not a mistake on the coaches part.
That wasn't the mistake. it was the lack of communication. And it was obvious in the replay. ESPNU showed it like 5 times in a row.
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We'll maybe his minor league coach will teach him the rules of taggin on fly balls.
You still don't get it. It's not about knowing the rules. Everyone knows the rules. It changes when you get between the chalk in the heat of the moment. When the coach has enough time to read the player a book while the ball is in the air, he should have enough time to communicate to the player the right thing to do.
They do this at any level. You joke, but im guessing you haven;t watched much baseball at a high level.
This post was edited on 4/5/12 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:27 pm to Lester Earl
You have never played an inning of baseballl
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:28 pm to Lester Earl
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But you yell for him to tag until he is settled on the bag ready to tag.
he was, then the coach picked up the baseball. While the coach was watching the ball, the runner left the bag like a retarded 5 yr old.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:29 pm to Swat5
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You have never played an inning of baseballl
he's watched really good coaches though
This post was edited on 4/5/12 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:30 pm to Swat5
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You have never played an inning of baseballl
ok. neither have you.
does that burn you as much as it does me?
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:31 pm to Lester Earl
I've played a lot of baseball..
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:32 pm to LsuTool
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he was, then the coach picked up the baseball. While the coach was watching the ball, the runner left the bag like a retarded 5 yr old.
nope. It's pointless to keep going over it again. Watch some more baseball and you'll see that iam right. THe coach does a lazy job communicating with the player. Bottom line. The player was wrong too. But the coach is the last line of defense to make sure that doesnt happen.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:34 pm to Swat5
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I've played a lot of baseball..
yeah, i'm sure you have.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:35 pm to Lester Earl
Give it up Lester.. It's just not how it works. The player is expected to have a certain amount of knowledge..
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:36 pm to Swat5
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The player is expected to have a certain amount of knowledge..
Why is the 3rd base coach even there then?
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:37 pm to Lester Earl
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Bottom line. The player was wrong too.
There was no reason for the guy to leave the base at all. He's on third and will score easily if the ball isn't caught. I give most of the blame to the player, not the coach. Just plain stupid baserunning.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:37 pm to Lester Earl
Lester, you have the last part wrong. The coach did communicate to the player to tag. That is obvious in that the player did go back to the bag to tag. I have coached a lot of young players and done plenty of screaming at them to make sure they get back to tag. Never have I seen a kid actually go back to tag then just wander off.
This post was edited on 4/5/12 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:37 pm to Lester Earl
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Watch some more baseball and you'll see that iam right
apparently I should watch "high level coaches" during the games instead of the actual game, so maybe I'll know more about baseball than some guy who's never played.
Once the player goes back to the bag, there is no reason for the coach to continue watching the runner. If he's watching the runner, how can he tell the runner when to go?
If the coach is watching the runner, instead of the baseball and for some ridiculous reason the runner just stands on the bag instead of running at the catch, you same idiots would be yelling "it's the coaches fault for not watching the ball and yelling at the runner to 'GO'"
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:39 pm to Kim Jong Ir
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There was no reason for the guy to leave the base at all. He's on third and will score easily if the ball isn't caught. I give most of the blame to the player, not the coach. Just plain stupid baserunning.
All that is true, but the coach got caught watching the ball too. Some of the blame goes to the coach, think that's all Les is trying to say.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:39 pm to Honkus
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The player is expected to have a certain amount of knowledge..
Why is the 3rd base coach even there then?
Gotta disagree with you here. A player at this level should know before the ball is put in play what he is supposed to do. This is not a situation where he's headed to third and wondering whether to round and head to home.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:40 pm to Lester Earl
You doubt I've played baseball? I've played at Brother Martin HS and Delgado JC.. I wasn't a star but i know baseball
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:40 pm to Swat5
Im trying to teach situational baseball here. Move along if you dont like it. If 1 person can learn something, then thats a win in my book
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:41 pm to Lester Earl
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Im trying to teach situational baseball here. Move along if you dont like it. If 1 person can learn something, then thats a win in my book
your making the tigerrant dumber.
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:43 pm to Kim Jong Ir
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A player at this level should know before the ball is put in play what he is supposed to do.
Certainly, bet thats the last time they make that mistake.
I think we can all still blame Javi in this instance tho
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