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So had Wing WAITED until he crossed the goal line to "shrug" and hold

Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:27 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:27 pm
his hands out there would have been a penalty on the kickoff but the TD would have been allowed?

Thanks ... honest question. He made to me a "slight" gestur at the 8 yd line and then a bigger gesture after he was in the endzone.

Also, I guess RR never has to worry about a flag for this ... as he never shows any emotion.

I just hope that if this got called on US it gets called for all teams. I swear I almost felt like we were playing Bama. Hope we don't get these refs for that game.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4643 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:28 pm to
Yes, after he crosses the goal line it becomes a dead ball foul and penalty on kickoff or extra point.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:28 pm to
Probably would have been put at the 15.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:37 pm to
No, TD still nullified and ball comes to 15.

This is different than excessive celebration.
Thus was taunting or calling unneccesary attention to yourself.
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:40 pm to
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No, TD still nullified and ball comes to 15.


nope. If it happens once the score happens it isn't taken away. At that point he's scored and it is a post-play penalty.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36703 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:41 pm to
but can't "excessive celebration" call "attention to yourself" technically speaking???

It just seems way too subjective to me and seems totally at the refs discretion. Which is the thing that scares me about going to Bama. Or anywhere. Even TS.
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

It just seems way too subjective to me and seems totally at the refs discretion. Which is the thing that scares me about going to Bama. Or anywhere. Even TS.



This is the problem. It is entirely subjective. A freaking salute was flagged last season. Pointing to the sky was flagged for Scott's TD at UGA in 2009.

The fact is that they are taking the fun out of the game. It amazes me that TM7 and the DBs are allowed to talk so much shite after plays and not get called for taunting, yet that play is called for it.

Just sad honestly.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4643 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

This is different than excessive celebration. Thus was taunting or calling unneccesary attention to yourself.
The difference is not between types of penalty, but WHEN it happened.

Live ball foul comes back from the spot of the foul.

Dead ball foul is enforced after the play.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:10 am to
probably would not have even been called, if that was all he did
Posted by 2close2Gainesville
Huge
Member since Sep 2008
4795 posts
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:16 am to
doubt it would have been called in the endzone at all, wouldnt have been excessive, but maybe taunting an opposing player if he was looking at him, ref's discretion. Hopefully they do away with next year.
Posted by Moist Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
166 posts
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:31 am to
Honestly, if this would have been last year I don't think any penalty would have been called. It's like they are trying to make an example. What I find comical was that it was the ultimate judgement call. Watching the replay, two other officials completely ignored it. The other in the endzone happened to call it. Weak at best but probably good that it happened to make others aware. As bad of a celebration as I've ever seen.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70129 posts
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:32 am to
quote:

probably would not have even been called, if that was all he did


this
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:32 am to
quote:

As bad of a celebration as I've ever seen.



nah, the jake locker one a couple years ago that actually impacted the game was much worse
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4149 posts
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:37 am to
If this was in a close game, I'm sure Miles would have come unglued. I'd much rather it now than against Bama.

All in all, tho, this was by far the worst called game of the season thus far. If the refs are gonna call an extremely judgemental call against Wing's "taunting " to the entire Fla special team's unit, then the horse collar on Ware should have been called as well.
Posted by PnG Exsanguination
About 5 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Jul 2008
2768 posts
Posted on 10/9/11 at 12:43 am to
It is kind of funny though...

We all saw what Wing did. A little shrug as if to say: "Sorry y'all are too far away to stop me from waltzing into the end zone... bitches." Just a little shrug but, because of when he did it, the TD was called back.

But if, for instance, LSU goes up 60-0 against Western Kentucky in a few weeks and the team decides to reenact the entirety of the Superbowl Shuffle in the end zone, they get to keep the TD.

Yeah, that's a proportionate penalty...
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