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PnG Exsanguination

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re: There is something missing..

Posted by PnG Exsanguination on 1/10/12 at 5:05 pm to
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As far as conspiracy theories go my most logical guess would be JJ was not the real kicker but knows who was.


Full blown conspiracy to follow:

Ooh! Or maybe JJ was the real kicker and J. Lee went to the police to dime him out so that there would be no quarterback controversy. LSU "magic" happens and the charges are downgraded, but everyone knows Lee was the snitch. They hold onto him just long enough for JJ to get over his suspension. Les allows him to stay on the team but the other players let him know, in no uncertain terms, that they won't play with Lee under center.

How does that work?
Note the part that says CABLE. Probably can't compare the last two BCSNCGs with any of the others based on TV ratings given that they used to be broadcast and are now cable.
I had to check to see if this was a thread from a year ago.
"I wonder if Williams ever considered his loyalty to the Bensons as a factor in his decision to help Alabama."

FIFY
Considering how the last game went down, the secret play was called "Brockers Beefy Hand" and it worked like a charm... once.
After careful, painstaking, scientific analysis, my results indicate that Red Tails is a far more inspirational movie than Contraband.
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never in my life have I seen people be such sore losers...

Umm... what you see here is not the mark of a sore loser. A loser becomes sore generally in one of two ways.

The first is blaming their loss on the refs. While we're known to do that, I don't think anyone has really made that claim in this game (although I was surprised by the low number of penalties). Penalties (or lack thereof) were pretty much a non-issue in this game.

A second way one could be called a sore loser is specifically stating that their team beat themselves rather than giving credit to the winning team. While I think all of us can agree that our offense did an admirable job of not playing, I don't think anyone can argue how impressive Alabama was. They totally deserved this win.

What you see here is a fanbase that cannot understand the inexplicable play-calling and lack of adjustment on the part of the coaching staff, not sore losers.
Not embarrassed, but I apparently put on a red shirt this morning. :cool:
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Blocked FG...

This was the Big Play of the game for LSU.
Yeah, to a degree. He said it after he was told the final LSU-UA score. Sort of embodied the emphasis on offense and scoring that every conference other than the SEC has.

re: Can you imagine......

Posted by PnG Exsanguination on 10/9/11 at 9:01 am to
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Rule happened at request of the coaches

Question is whether it's being implemented as the coaches had intended.
It is kind of funny though...

We all saw what Wing did. A little shrug as if to say: "Sorry y'all are too far away to stop me from waltzing into the end zone... bitches." Just a little shrug but, because of when he did it, the TD was called back.

But if, for instance, LSU goes up 60-0 against Western Kentucky in a few weeks and the team decides to reenact the entirety of the Superbowl Shuffle in the end zone, they get to keep the TD.

Yeah, that's a proportionate penalty...
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Glad it happened in a blow out and can be considered a learning moment

Assuming the fine refs in that game don't decide to start selectively enforcing other rules in that section. There are something like eight of them.
LOL, I just noticed that Wing starts to highstep out the back of the end zone after the run and then runs into the student section wall to engage the audience. He theoretically breaks those rules under several sections.

Now watch the play and determine whether you think college kids shouldn't be allowed to do that.
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I don't think you can compare ticky tack holding vs ticky tack taunting. Holding during game play can be hard to determine...
Why? Holding doesn't even require determining intent, it's a strictly physical action. You see a jersey being plucked, then a ref would be in their rights saying that someone on the O-line has clearly kept the defender from advancing by grasping with hands or arms. But refs definitely don't call each and every one of these. They call the egregious ones.

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Taunting on the other hand is easy to determine whether it's split second or otherwise.
I guess it is if you're going by the dictionary definition of taunting. The refs are going by the NCAA definition. The two are different, which I think a lot of people are having trouble understanding. The NCAA spells out specific examples and then provides for incredibly broad interpretation. Reminds me of Potter Stewart's definition of pornography: "You know it when you see it?" Essentially, the absolutely most subjective way of determining something?

Seriously, what if a ref decides that sneering at or giving an opponent the evil eye is taunting? The letter of the rule would allow a ref to call it this way and negate a TD.

re: Mark May on SportsCenter...

Posted by PnG Exsanguination on 10/9/11 at 12:00 am to
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It had nothing to do with excessive celebration and everything to do with taunting. It's really not that difficult, and you summed up the taunt pretty well in another post.
Poor choice of words on my part with respect to excessive celebration. You are correct, it is about the taunt. With that said, a reading of the taunting rules does not cover what Wing did, so as mentioned in my post you quoted, it falls under the "not limited to" caveat and thus a careful application of judgement and reason. I, and apparently others, consider this unreasonable. In my own mind, it's the difference between a quick, slight snagging of the jersey and literally ripping someone's jersey off in terms of holding, for instance.

Considering how almost none of the rest of these taunting infractions are being called, the rule is apparently being applied unevenly and is, by definition, unfair. As it's currently implemented, the NCAA is just asking for a ref to make a similar call when it actually matters and the fanbase will be up in arms about it.

re: Mark May on SportsCenter...

Posted by PnG Exsanguination on 10/8/11 at 11:43 pm to
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If you're going to go to the trouble of quoting the rule, don't omit the line that immediately precedes what you cited as the rule

I did in the other thread about this. That actually supports the case even more so that this was a ridiculous call. Since that phrase opens up literally EVERYTHING to potentially be adjudicated as a taunting penalty, the referees are then expected to exercise careful judgement in what they are going to include in their definition of taunting beyond what is explicitly spelled out in the rules. To include a literally split-second action that is almost impossible to notice without the aid of slow motion technology seems to be stretching the intent of this rule, particularly as "excessive" celebration.
Interestingly, the SEC referred to Section (b) in it's statement about the call. That one requires the taunting to be verbal. Seriously? Were any of the Florida players even close enough to Wing to interpret anything he said while the play was live? Doubt it. More amusingly, this is the penalty TM7 should be called for just about every play.

I would note that Wing possibly could have been called for the penalty under section (h) "Going into the stands to interact with spectators, or bowing at the waist after a good play" since his run terminated in the loving embrace of the student section. All depends on how "going into" is defined.