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re: Small ball will not be attacked ITT
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:09 pm to profwilson
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:09 pm to profwilson
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But the emphasis here is on runS, plural. Swinging away as opposed to bunting increases your chances of scoring multiple runs in an inning,
runs per nine is irrelevant when you’re playing a team that has good pitching. You’re fricked if you can’t do the small stuff by putting pressure on the opponents staff. You do that by executing all of the little things such as stealing bases, bunting and just putting the ball in play.
Just follow the New York Yankees and you’ll understand why.
But, hey, what do I know after watching this game all of the years I have.
2-1 games are RARE when you are scratching out runs. The improbability of a Yordan HR in the WS last season versus a lefty was low. What was more predictable? The Astros staff ending that shite because of how fantastic they were.
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:22 pm to Lester Earl
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Bunting is dumb. There are other ways to create runs that they do not wish to explore. And other ways they simply cannot explore because they do not have those type of hitters
Can't recall a time I've ever agreed with you. A good time to bunt is very very very rare.
The 1988 is Tiger1988's name is probably the year he graduated high school. Those days are long gone.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:24 pm to Tiger1988
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You’re fricked if you can’t do the small stuff by putting pressure on the opponents staff
You know what puts more pressure on a staff than bunting? Having white coming up to the dish if you pitch around crews. The white/crews combo is rare, but Dugas, Thompson, Beloso etc are plenty good enough. I guarantee you that we haven't faced one pitcher all season that hasn't felt pressure against this lineup. frick bunting.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:32 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Dugas, Thompson
Their averages are looking like Bud Light and Target’s stock market graph right now.
Not only are their averages dropping like a stone in water but they’re striking out a shitload and they aren’t having productive outs when they do put the bat on the ball.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:34 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I’ve always respected a good bunt. And saying they only move runners over is shortsighted.
Bunts can :
Move a runner
Score a run on a squeeze
Destroy a pitchers timing
Lessen a pitchers time on the mound by making him move
Completely foil a shift- this alone is a reason to bunt
Get an infield single
Make infielders reposition
Cause bad throws or poor fielding
Our problem is nobody knows how to bunt. You don’t jab at the ball, you take the inertia out of the pitch and direct the ball to a certain spot.
I couldn’t hit for shite, but I could bunt, and it was fun. The opponent hates it
Bunts can :
Move a runner
Score a run on a squeeze
Destroy a pitchers timing
Lessen a pitchers time on the mound by making him move
Completely foil a shift- this alone is a reason to bunt
Get an infield single
Make infielders reposition
Cause bad throws or poor fielding
Our problem is nobody knows how to bunt. You don’t jab at the ball, you take the inertia out of the pitch and direct the ball to a certain spot.
I couldn’t hit for shite, but I could bunt, and it was fun. The opponent hates it
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:36 pm to Lou the Jew from LSU
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I’ve always respected a good bunt. And saying they only move runners over is shortsighted.
Bunts can :
Move a runner
Score a run on a squeeze
Destroy a pitchers timing
Lessen a pitchers time on the mound by making him move
Completely foil a shift- this alone is a reason to bunt
Get an infield single
Make infielders reposition
Cause bad throws or poor fielding
Our problem is nobody knows how to bunt. You don’t jab at the ball, you take the inertia out of the pitch and direct the ball to a certain spot.
I couldn’t hit for shite, but I could bunt, and it was fun. The opponent hates it
What you did in little league, and what you taught little Jaxon to do does not translate nearly as well to SEC baseball. Sorry
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:38 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Their averages are looking like Bud Light and Target’s stock market graph right now
Cool. You people are expecting positive results 100% of the time. That's not how baseball works. Dugas has hit well all season with RISP. Thompson has come up clutch plenty. You don't throw that away because of a few failed attempts.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:40 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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Bunting is dumb.
You’re getting downvoted but this is correct. There are very very few scenarios where a bunt is clearly the right call. Especially when you have the bats we do
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:57 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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You know what puts more pressure on a staff than bunting? Having white coming up to the dish if you pitch around crews. The white/crews combo is rare, but Dugas, Thompson, Beloso etc are plenty good enough. I guarantee you that we haven't faced one pitcher all season that hasn't felt pressure against this lineup. frick bunting.
I’ve seen several do it this year ant different parts of a game and for long stretches. all they had was a slow breaking ball that hits Crews back foot. He is WIDE OPEN to that pitch. Watch how he flies open and his hands don’t travel.
White is the hitter that is worthy of respect in that line up when he has 2 strikes. He is good at put the ball in play to drive in runs.
Crews has come back to earth because pitchers aren’t afraid to throw inside.
Beloso free swings versus lefties as does Jobert.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:18 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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You people are expecting positive results 100% of the time. That's not how baseball works. Dugas has hit well all season with RISP. Thompson has come up clutch plenty. You don't throw that away because of a few failed attempts.
No, sir. You see, what you really should do is take the best hitting team in the conference and start bunting at regional time when it hasn't been part of the philosophy all season.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:33 pm to mdomingue
Analytics hate bunting and stealing. That’s why it has been phased out at the MLB level and starting to be at the college level.
LSU’s issue in the last few weeks has not been getting runners to scoring position. It has been getting them in once they are there. Bunting doesn’t really help you with that much.
LSU’s issue in the last few weeks has not been getting runners to scoring position. It has been getting them in once they are there. Bunting doesn’t really help you with that much.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:56 pm to ColdTurkey
I’m not a college coach, but I’ve damned sure used small ball to win a lot of HS games over 20 plus seasons.
Especially when we face an un athletic pitcher who struggles to field his position.
We practiced it a lot and in addition to helping us win games, it taught our defense how to beat it most of the time.
Especially when we face an un athletic pitcher who struggles to field his position.
We practiced it a lot and in addition to helping us win games, it taught our defense how to beat it most of the time.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:58 pm to geauxbrown
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I’m not a college coach, but I’ve damned sure used small ball to win a lot of HS games over 20 plus seasons.
The wing T still works at the high school level too if it’s taught right. Doesn’t mean it can work in the SEC.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:05 pm to mdomingue
Bunting especially doesn’t work near the top of LSUs lineup as we’ve seen multiple times teams intentionally walk Crews and White back to back anyway.
There was a game toward the end of the season that Jay pissed me off for this exact reason. We bunted to move runner over and gave up an out just for back to back walks after…waste of an out.
It’s better to make the pitchers labor and try and throw strikes, work the count and try to get a productive out or walk anyway, especially in late innings.
Exactly
There was a game toward the end of the season that Jay pissed me off for this exact reason. We bunted to move runner over and gave up an out just for back to back walks after…waste of an out.
It’s better to make the pitchers labor and try and throw strikes, work the count and try to get a productive out or walk anyway, especially in late innings.
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LSU’s issue in the last few weeks has not been getting runners to scoring position. It has been getting them in once they are there. Bunting doesn’t really help you with that much.
Exactly
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:13 pm to mdomingue
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In almost 0 scenarios do your odds of scoring a run go up
In some scenarios they actually go down.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:39 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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In some scenarios they actually go down.
Significantly more often than they go up actually.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:44 pm to lsu2006
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You’re getting downvoted but this is correct.
Only by people that don’t understand baseball.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 5:09 pm to Hot Carl
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You lack a healthy appreciation for the preciousness of outs.
fricking apparently
it boggles my mind. I never took baseball past HS. I was decent. Played all-stars just about every year, never did travel ball. I always had a knack for pulling off a "frick you" bunt where I'd show at the very last minute and have my bat cocked perfect and lay that bitch just where I wanted it. I've never understood why it isn't more prevalent, and damn sure don't understand LSU's aversion to it this year. Maybe I should take up coaching.Posted on 5/28/23 at 5:16 pm to ColdTurkey
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I never took baseball past HS. I was decent. Played all-stars just about every year, never did travel ball. I always had a knack for pulling off a "frick you" bunt where I'd show at the very last minute and have my bat cocked perfect and lay that bitch just where I wanted it. I've never understood why it isn't more prevalent, and damn sure don't understand LSU's aversion to it this year. Maybe I should take up coaching.
You are talking about bunting for a hit. People are talking about sacrifices in this thread. The only two guys with the speed to bunt for hits in LSU’s lineup are Crews and Morgan. They aren’t exactly the guys that you want bunting. You want them swinging away not bunting.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 5:36 pm to Lester Earl
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The best run scoring major league teams bunt once every 3-5 games.
currently that would be the First Place Texas Rangers
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