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Small ball will not be attacked ITT

Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7544 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:55 pm
These baws can hit dingers, yes. But would it not also be conducive and behoove the offense to lay down the bunt as any man serious enough to play baseball past 18 years should be able to with efficiency?! I propose an era of LSU Baseball that includes both. This era shall reign Supreme starting post-season '23. Small ball, gorilla ball, winomahaatallstakes ball. How bout it?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:59 pm to
Bunting is dumb.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24228 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:01 pm to
You mean fundamental baseball?

Here’s the deal:
White is a great hitter. He hits for power and can drive in runs by doing things like hitting fly balls to drive in runs. He is a great 2 strike hitter. That guy should never bunt.

Other hitters like Thompson, Dugas, Morgan can all learn to be good at both. They could be excellent base runners as well.
It takes in game experience to do that. Prepare a team for it when it is required.
Just have to learn…
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7544 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Bunting is dumb.



Because runs don't count, idiot.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278179 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:02 pm to
Bunting is dumb. There are other ways to create runs that they do not wish to explore. And other ways they simply cannot explore because they do not have those type of hitters
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:05 pm to
We have gone over this before. You have a higher probability of scoring runs by not bunting.
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7544 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:05 pm to
You mean fundamental baseball?

I do. When we lose a regional because Beloso or whoever cannot bunt for shite, okay. I don't have utmost confidence in our any given day's 1-9 to be able to lay down an effective bunt that gets a run home instead of a 1-1 count developed into a double play.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42374 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:14 pm to
Your wrong moscona
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
2664 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:18 pm to
Well, having the personnel to bunt is a big factor. You need speed (burner speed) to make the threat real. The defense has to abandon base coverage. We have 3 guys in the line up with that kind of speed. 3 more that are ok fast. The other issue is when. Whenever anyone is on first with less than 2 outs? I believe steals are more efficient. You don’t need burner speed just good base running skills.
Posted by BadTiger
Member since Dec 2003
328 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:18 pm to
While not popular with the casual fans, you are 100% correct that a team should be able to effectively move runners into scoring position with the bunt. Especially when you don’t even have base stealing as part of our offensive approach, at all. We will not win a NC with gorilla ball only. Dominant pitchers will limit your runs. Maybe I’m wrong, but let’s revisit in a few weeks.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63196 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:18 pm to
"You miss 100% of the bunts you don't take." --Lee Mazzilli

--Michael Scott
Posted by profwilson
Member since Jul 2004
867 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:18 pm to
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You have a higher probability of scoring runs by not bunting


This is true. But the emphasis here is on runS, plural. Swinging away as opposed to bunting increases your chances of scoring multiple runs in an inning, while also increasing your chances of not scoring at all. Bunting maximizes your chances of getting exactly one run. Sometimes that makes sense situationally, sometimes it doesn't.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7260 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:26 pm to
I wish there was more bunting against the shift. The shift against Pearson is crazy. But no more shifts after this year…although teams will use utility players in LF to basically be used for a quasi shift.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
58988 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:27 pm to
You lack a healthy appreciation for the preciousness of outs.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278179 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:46 pm to
The best run scoring major league teams bunt once every 3-5 games. LSU is right around every 5 games. It’s not a viable strategy to consistently score runs
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24228 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:52 pm to
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You need speed (burner speed) to make the threat real.

We’re not talking about bunting for hits. We are talking about bunting to move runners and in strategic situations. For example, had Dugas been able to bunt Travinski scores in the game in the tied with LSU having an advantage late in games because of hitting. Secondly, when you bunt like Morgan did the other day, it can be a hit without being ultra fast. He had a perfectly placed bunt when the opposing team least expecting it.
Also, this team needs to learn to run the bases better. Travinski did not need to try to go home on the play. Where Dugas bunted it back to the pitcher.

It was the right call but poorly executed.

There’s no reason why LSU doesn’t have 3-5 guys with 20+ stolen bases. None.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 2:02 pm
Posted by hayden7cub
Mississippi
Member since Mar 2019
296 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:54 pm to
The bunting disciples need to move on because it’s been slowly phased out of most college teams. Basically pretty much nobody bunts anymore except for Kentucky and they’re a joy to watch. And, the numbers prove that giving up outs to move runners over doesn’t make sense.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9380 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:57 pm to
This team cannot bunt. Nobody practices bunting anymore anyway. However, until they begin having productive outs, they will continue to struggle to score runs. Which means we’re going to have to cut strikeouts down by half at least.

We have far too many unproductive outs and we swing and miss far too often. I don’t really know if we can fix it at this point in the season. We rely far too much on the home run.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278179 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

We have far too many unproductive outs and we swing and miss far too often. I don’t really know if we can fix it at this point in the season. We rely far too much on the home run.



Ya, but the low hanging fruit is to bunt more!!!1


Not recruit a different profile of player (like they should )
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29992 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:00 pm to
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Bunting maximizes your chances of getting exactly one run


Based on what? In almost 0 scenarios do your odds of scoring a run go up. Sorry about the quality of the second pic


Here are a few analytic charts





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