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Slowness to identify and get best men on the field

Posted on 9/14/18 at 4:15 am
Posted by TigerBert
Member since Oct 2015
3018 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 4:15 am
This seems to have been an issue the last few years. We'll, that and suspensions and injuries.

Being 2-0, I think we got past this one if we can (hopefully) avoid key injuries and suspensions moving forward.

Getting guys like Deculus and Jacoby on the field more, and Traore less, is going to help a lot.

Wondering if Giles will be next, with Marshall, Jefferson and Chase emerging as the best 3 receivers?

Overall,I'm feeling things come together. Wish Magee would be back, but thinking enough is now in place.

The Barn will be beat. Much more balance and our best available talent is gonna help.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 4:19 am
Posted by Westbank Hank
Gretna
Member since Apr 2018
549 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 4:23 am to
Maybe thats because its not much wiggle room from the starters and second string.

Or coached just trying to keep guys from transferring.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10251 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 5:53 am to
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Slowness to identify and get best men on the field


Deculus got beat out by Magee and Traore in Fall camp. Either he has improved, learned the playbook better, or he's better in games than in practices. Some players are just like that.

As for Stevens, he is playing now because Chaisson got hurt.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 5:58 am to
Some guys you just don’t know what you have until you see them live in a game. People also don’t understand that young players get better week to week. Deculus could be better today than he was two weeks ago. Jacoby Stevens is a great athlete but he is not the best safety on this team and that’s why he is constantly being moved around. His athletic ability makes it to where you want him to be on the field but there are guys better than him at his position currently playing.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12949 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 6:11 am to
Booty v. Davey was a prime example of this. Booty was better in practice while Davey was the better gamer.
Posted by LSUMIKEVVX
Member since Sep 2018
500 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 6:12 am to
Miles era was well known for this especially at LB
Posted by LSUBrown
ATL
Member since Sep 2006
465 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:00 am to
I don’t think the Deculus/Traore situation is a good example. Deculus had been moved to guard and Traore was slated to back up Magee. When Magee went down, I’m sure the staff thought Traore was the safer bet to put in, since he’d been practicing and preparing for Miami at RT, while Deculus had not.

For the SEL game, if Charles had not been out, I have no doubt Deculus would’ve started at RT ahead of Traore, or at least come in after Traore stunk up the place.
This post was edited on 9/14/18 at 7:02 am
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:12 am to
LSU has the playmakers in their backyard but needs to head north for Olinemen
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4411 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:14 am to
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As for Stevens, he is playing now because Chaisson got hurt.


Stevens likely won't be playing the boundary OLB. He'll be an F backer. Now he may have moved to F backer because one of the F backers had to be moved to boundary bc of the Chaisson injury.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18438 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:25 am to
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LSU has the playmakers in their backyard but needs to head north for Olinemen


Go get them big, corn fed, tractor pulling, farm raised motha frickas.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:28 am to
Exactly,could bring LSU all the way back
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1520 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:51 am to
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LSU has the playmakers in their backyard but needs to head north for Olinemen


Been saying this for years....we have the skill athletes....

Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3939 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:56 am to
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Deculus got beat out by Magee and Traore in Fall camp.


Some guys are just "gamers". Sometimes it's just that simple.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10510 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 7:57 am to
Saban was 96% through with his season last year before he let the better QB take over. So it takes time.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8636 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:17 am to
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Slowness to identify and get best men on the field
This seems to have been an issue the last few years.

Yea. CEO has been better about this. If you're complaining about the OL, remember that there isn't much room with suspensions--they get arrested or break team rules, you CAN'T not suspend them. And injuries are mostly unavoidable. That's what's happened with the OL last week. And sometimes it's not immediately obvious that a player should start, i.e. Deculus and Traore. It is now, and he's starting.

Defense is good. And the receivers just haven't been consistent, though I'm sure the most talented have started. But with so much youth/inexperience at WR, it does take some time for the best to be clear in-game. Here's to hoping we get that picture cleared up soon, like before-two-days-from-now soon.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22501 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:40 am to
Receivers dropping sure gain passes have haunted our QBs and team for a couple of seasons now.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8926 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:43 am to
My opinion is that you don’t know how a guy will react when live bullets start flying.
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3361 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 8:51 am to
No. As a coach, you've got what you've got as far as talent goes. You try like heck to mask, work through and over come your weaknesses. Everyone has them.

Players "get it" and come along at different times and rates. You work them and work them and work them.

You come out of camp thinking this is your line-up, but you can't be sure until live bullets start flying.

Moving guys around to find the best fit, or combination is always best. It happens everywhere.

You have to be willing to change your line-up.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8966 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:07 am to
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Slowness to identify and get best men on the field



Geez, so true, remember how long it took for White to finally start.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:18 am to
A LIVE game says a lot. Also, huge improvements are usually made from week 1 to week 2...and they will only show up on the field. As the season goes on all of this will settle.
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