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re: Slowness to identify and get best men on the field
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:23 am to Westbank Hank
Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:23 am to Westbank Hank
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Maybe thats because its not much wiggle room from the starters and second string.
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Posted on 9/14/18 at 9:59 am to TigerBert
Sometimes it takes a little while in sports because some players look great in practice and can't handle game pressure and some players look average in practice but rise to the occasion under the lights.
One of the shows they were talking about this with Deculus, they were guessing that maybe he's a gamer and just doesn't practice well. He's looked good when he plays but always seems to be behind someone he outplays.
One of the shows they were talking about this with Deculus, they were guessing that maybe he's a gamer and just doesn't practice well. He's looked good when he plays but always seems to be behind someone he outplays.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:05 am to TigerBert
I don't fault 0 for letting things shake out at WR given the true freshman studs in the mix.
OL on the other hand, the performance and sudden changes there are frustrating. The #1 attribute I want in a lineman is nastiness. Traore doesn't have it. Rosenthal likely does. I know he wanted to be a DL, but have this talk with him Mid-August, not mid-sept.
Chemistry of a starting OL takes a while. I feel like, even of we have the right mix now at OL, we won't see the fruits until midseason. If so, that'd be progress, but it'll feel like 0 wasted his 2nd August in some ways.
OL on the other hand, the performance and sudden changes there are frustrating. The #1 attribute I want in a lineman is nastiness. Traore doesn't have it. Rosenthal likely does. I know he wanted to be a DL, but have this talk with him Mid-August, not mid-sept.
Chemistry of a starting OL takes a while. I feel like, even of we have the right mix now at OL, we won't see the fruits until midseason. If so, that'd be progress, but it'll feel like 0 wasted his 2nd August in some ways.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:08 am to LSUBrown
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I don’t think the Deculus/Traore situation is a good example. Deculus had been moved to guard and Traore was slated to back up Magee. When Magee went down, I’m sure the staff thought Traore was the safer bet to put in, since he’d been practicing and preparing for Miami at RT, while Deculus had not.
For the SEL game, if Charles had not been out, I have no doubt Deculus would’ve started at RT ahead of Traore, or at least come in after Traore stunk up the place.
.................and let's also remember Traore, although the #1 junior college O-lineman last season, is still in his first couple of games of SEC football. it may just take him a couple of games to get up to the speed. I don't think it's time to write him off at all.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:12 am to TigerBert
I think Jefferson Sullivan and Chase are the best three
But Jefferson has 6 catches on 13 targets, which is like 20% ofnourntotal targets. Not one else is above 9%
But Jefferson has 6 catches on 13 targets, which is like 20% ofnourntotal targets. Not one else is above 9%
Posted on 9/14/18 at 10:17 am to TigerBert
In general, leaving freshmen out of this statement alltogether, you should be able to identify your linemen (both sides) in camp.
Skill positions- whole other story. They have ups/downs, can be greatly affected by one guy from the other side game to game, some excel in drills - suck in practice - then excel in games (or any combo of that). INCLUDING QB, I like the hot hand theory. And we have the depth except at RB and since Taylor/Chaisson losses, LB to do it.
But that's just identifying "the best". Then coaches have to overcome biases, that exist for a legitimate reason (e.g. leadership)
- Practice Pete's
- seniority (I hate that one) self-justified as "experience"
- simple personality
- taking plays off
- special teams roles
- focus (makes mistakes in practice but not in games)
- "peer pressure" some guys don't feel it all when in legitimate competition (games) but let a sense of comradeship affect them in non-games. Usually a defense problem.
Skill positions- whole other story. They have ups/downs, can be greatly affected by one guy from the other side game to game, some excel in drills - suck in practice - then excel in games (or any combo of that). INCLUDING QB, I like the hot hand theory. And we have the depth except at RB and since Taylor/Chaisson losses, LB to do it.
But that's just identifying "the best". Then coaches have to overcome biases, that exist for a legitimate reason (e.g. leadership)
- Practice Pete's
- seniority (I hate that one) self-justified as "experience"
- simple personality
- taking plays off
- special teams roles
- focus (makes mistakes in practice but not in games)
- "peer pressure" some guys don't feel it all when in legitimate competition (games) but let a sense of comradeship affect them in non-games. Usually a defense problem.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:17 pm to LSUMIKEVVX
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Miles era was well known for this especially at LB
Aside from DJ Welter. Can yo/u provide examples?
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:20 pm to tigersbh
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Deculus got beat out by Magee and Traore in Fall camp. Either he has improved, learned the playbook better, or he's better in games than in practices. Some players are just like that.
There was a report during camp that eluded to Deculus having a possible hand/arm injury. Perhaps he is better now and able to compete.
Posted on 9/14/18 at 12:21 pm to TigerBert
some guys are bad in practice and great in games. Rohan said that of himself. It's not an exact science. Some guys are great in practice and melt in games. Ya see how that works?
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