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Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:18 am to foghat
cmon guys. enough of this. we shoulda won the game in spite of the officiating. had several chances to put it away.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:21 am to tigerfoot
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but I believe it would show he never clearly possessed the ball
So it was the right call after all? I swear, you people
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:22 am to foghat
Of course this mother fricker is going to say that...being a Bama grad he’s going to take care of little brother aTm and POS Jimbo .....I wouldn’t have expected him to state anything otherwise... his answer to every questionable call was in favor of his pets ( Refs) and aTm.... he’s not going to say they really did frick up becuz then he knows they cost LSU the game and it would fit the script of all the corrupt BS that is going on in this bias league... frick him and the whole SEC...
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:26 am to LNCHBOX
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He didn't take two steps
2 steps. WHat is this nonsense?
Let's say the WR makes a catch identical to this on the sideline and puts one toe in bounds.
Where are the 2 steps? Should that be an incompletion
Utter BS
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:40 am to LNCHBOX
I have never said it was the wrong call.
The Mond call was wrong. The PI was wrong.
The Mond call was wrong. The PI was wrong.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:48 am to classicgold
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If they can say Kellen Mond had possession of the ball when he instantly touched it with one hand with his knee on the ground; then you have to be consistent and say that Sternberger had possession with both hands on the ball and turning up field.
In that case every dropped, or deflected, pass would be a fumble. We don’t need consistency between two unrelated things.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:15 pm to LNCHBOX
I don't what some are calling possessed the ball. He absolutely possessed and had 2 steps.
Sequence:
1)Caught the ball with the hands chest high....no juggling, ball was secure at the moment he caught it.
2) Left foot comes down after catch, while he begins bringing ball down with both hands
3) He turns shoulders down the field and continues to move ball to left side away from defender. There was no juggling, ball was secured.
4) 2nd step (right foot) comes down he continues process of moving ball to left side
5) Right before 3rd step comes down helmet hits the ball out.
He clearly controlled the ball from the moment his hands touched it. He turned shoulders with the ball (football move) and took the 2nd step. There was never a time where the ball was moving around uncontrolled.
I don't see how anybody can say he never possessed. He controlled the ball for 2 steps.
At the least the main issue with this call is that the play should've been allowed to complete and then review. That is my biggest gripe. Instead they call it incomplete and the play is dead and can't be reviewed.
The refs were careful to review the Knee Play and Spike play to get it right. But they couldn't let this play finish and review it to get it right. 2 plays they reviewed were game enders for A&M, the play that was a game winner for LSU, they couldn't review it.
Sequence:
1)Caught the ball with the hands chest high....no juggling, ball was secure at the moment he caught it.
2) Left foot comes down after catch, while he begins bringing ball down with both hands
3) He turns shoulders down the field and continues to move ball to left side away from defender. There was no juggling, ball was secured.
4) 2nd step (right foot) comes down he continues process of moving ball to left side
5) Right before 3rd step comes down helmet hits the ball out.
He clearly controlled the ball from the moment his hands touched it. He turned shoulders with the ball (football move) and took the 2nd step. There was never a time where the ball was moving around uncontrolled.
I don't see how anybody can say he never possessed. He controlled the ball for 2 steps.
At the least the main issue with this call is that the play should've been allowed to complete and then review. That is my biggest gripe. Instead they call it incomplete and the play is dead and can't be reviewed.
The refs were careful to review the Knee Play and Spike play to get it right. But they couldn't let this play finish and review it to get it right. 2 plays they reviewed were game enders for A&M, the play that was a game winner for LSU, they couldn't review it.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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There were about 6 50/50 calls that all went against us
You contradicted yourself
If there were 6 50/50 calls and 6/6 went against us...
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:42 pm to LNCHBOX
they reviewed it. no faggies anywhere have complained about this call.
you are dumb as a brick, boy.
you are dumb as a brick, boy.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:48 pm to LNCHBOX
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Using steps as a basis for possession is inane. Hypothetically, what if a player caught a ball and then just stood there? He's not in possession yet?
Rewatch the full instructional video. He goes on to give an example of a football move as taking “a step or two”. Everyone has their opinion, but to insist it is incomplete with no doubt is immature at best.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:09 pm to foghat
He caught the ball over his shoulder with his hands and chest/chest plate, took a step after the catch while turning his body up field, then moved the ball from his chest out and back in and absolutely tucked the ball onto his side while taking his SECOND STEP which would've been complete in the NFL. I will say that he didn't have it tucked away properly, and that's what caused him to fumble, but to say that it wasn't a catch because he didn't tuck it is ludicrous. I've watched it several times, and he caught the ball, took two steps and tucked it away loosely and incorrectly with both hands still supporting the ball which is what caused the fumble. Upon the defenders contact with his right arm, the right hand still supporting the ball caused the ball to spin from his hands.
Its a travesty that they didn't even review. I can understand a mistaken call on the field. It was incorrect protocol not to let the play play out on the field, and give the ability to review and overturn, but then to not even give LSU the review after the improper protocol was taken on the field is disgusting.
Its hard to "let it go"
Its a travesty that they didn't even review. I can understand a mistaken call on the field. It was incorrect protocol not to let the play play out on the field, and give the ability to review and overturn, but then to not even give LSU the review after the improper protocol was taken on the field is disgusting.
Its hard to "let it go"
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:15 pm to Rohan Gravy
that call is a fumble 99 times out of 100
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:41 pm to foghat
He did tuck it. He also turned and ran toward the endzone. It was a fumble all day. They are just saying whatever they think they have to say to reduce the heat.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:56 pm to RightHook
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cmon guys. enough of this. we shoulda won the game in spite of the officiating. had several chances to put it away.
This is true. Hate that the officials became part of the game but LSU should have never let them complete a touchdown pass with 1 second left.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:04 pm to foghat
Complete bullshite proved by evidence.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:04 pm to SOL
Yes and I thought he admitted the Greedy PI call shouldn’t have been made.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:05 pm to TBoy
Was listening to Hester and Flynn, two guys who've played a little football. They said refs are trained to call those fumbles, review the play and correct it if needed.
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:22 pm to Adajax
yup. this is the most damning part.
this gets called on the field a pass > fumble, it gets reviewed and is upheld.
called incomplete pass on the field. no review.
however, what are the rules regarding challenges in college football? can an opposing coach even challenge an incomplete pass?
this gets called on the field a pass > fumble, it gets reviewed and is upheld.
called incomplete pass on the field. no review.
however, what are the rules regarding challenges in college football? can an opposing coach even challenge an incomplete pass?
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:44 pm to LNCHBOX
Possession is 1 foot in college and he took two steps. The hit caused the fumble.
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