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re: Serious Question - What is a "true tiger?"

Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:22 pm to
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So what it comes down to is that Josh, SFP and Max think the only thing wrong with KW is Les?

Please go through this thread and find where it is that I said this, actually go through my entire post history and find anytime I have bashed Les about this matter, or any really.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36896 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:24 pm to
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You can honestly say that this board was 50% Russell, 50% Flynn during their careers?

C'mon man. We all saw what it was like. Sure Russell had some support, but his supporters no where near numbered those of Flynn's.


Part of it was the underdog role. I just don't recall in 2005 and 2006 this board demanding Flynn. I'm sure some people did. But a majority,no ?
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19633 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:24 pm to
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A joke about Hester's facemask penalty or training and people want to take your head off. Wishing death to Lee and people are fine with it.


You're saying I'm ok with Lee getting bashed and I'm not. I'm just tired of a few folks continuing to tie KW and JH together. Someone says something negative about KW and there is somehow a JH reference. I didn't start it.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:25 pm to
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You can honestly say that this board was 50% Russell, 50% Flynn during their careers?


I can honestly say it was FAR more than 50% in favor of JaMarcus when they were both here. We never really had a QB controversy. Flynn had some supporters, but they were nowhere near a majority.

Flynn then got the start of JaMarcus left and won a national title. People like national titles.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:25 pm to
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You're saying I'm ok with Lee getting bashed and I'm not.


No I'm saying you seem to be incapable of understanding that this thread isn't about KW.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36896 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:26 pm to
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Flynn had some supporters, but they were nowhere near a majority.


That's why this "the Rant says" nonsense is getting out of hand. Well said.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46367 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:28 pm to
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I don't think you can. It's more like a feeling, a fan favorite. Why do Saints fans yell "Deeeeeuuuuuucce"! every time he gets the ball when he's hardly produced anything in the last few years? Because the fans love him. Some players just have legend surrounding them- Hester getting the 4th down conversions against Florida, Clayton knocking an Auburn players head off on an onside kick, Flynn putting an asswhipping on Miami...they are legends in LSU lore. You either are, or you aren't.


I understand that but when you say:

quote:


And it's great that a player has great athletic ability a la JR or Bowe, or Keiland. But none of them have shown to be true Tigers at heart.


are you stating your personal opinion or what you perceive to be the majority opinion of hardcore fans?
Posted by Herbstreit
Member since Sep 2008
734 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:28 pm to
How is it such an outlandish statement to not think his career has not resembled Vincent's? Boh had great frosh seasons and then from there on, they were both passed up on the depth chart by guys who ran harder, and hit the holes better.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19633 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:29 pm to
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No I'm saying you seem to be incapable of understanding that this thread isn't about KW.


Are you for real?? I understand what it's about but it most definitely became about KW.

Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36896 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:30 pm to
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Jaydeaux


Stop making it sound like you're responding to me.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19633 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:32 pm to
Sorry, I'm just fired up. I mean I wish I could read and understand as well as Mr 24 yr old up there. Also, I'm sick of dicks like Max following my posts and trying to imply I'm some kind of racist.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81643 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:34 pm to
Jaydeaux, you followed me into every Hester or KW thread for 2 years to start shite and now you are crying because I'm mocking you believing that Hester is some god for San Diego or that Josh Johns is the next Steltz because the back of their football cards look similar. Hilarious.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19633 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:39 pm to
I could give a shite what you say about the players. What I don't like is that you insist on trying to paint me as a racist.

You can't win the KW JH arguement it's written in history. I have supported KW in my posts but you still act like i think he sucks.

I hope KW blows up and you finally win the arguement. Until then keep blowing hot air about him.

But you dont have any reason to call me a racist.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81643 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:40 pm to

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Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19633 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:42 pm to

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Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:45 pm to
Wait what are those supposed to prove?

I see a good player and a not good player.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19633 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:47 pm to
That's max pulling in him fighting with me on the recruiting board. It proves nothing other than they are almost the same in hgt, wgt, 40time, bench, sqt, vert and play the same position, that's all. One, proven the other not so much.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:48 pm to
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One, good the other not so much.



FIXED
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476119 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:49 pm to
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SFP -- you do NOT look mainly at production. I know this because we've had this argument about a million times on the MSB. You go by measurables and talent.

which generally turn into production

any argument i've made about KW/Hester, Scott/Hester, Bowe/Clayton, has been about results on the field

if you're asking me about draft evaluation, that's a different argument

quote:

My biggest knock on KW is that he is a boom or bust back. He gets you a few lousy carries and then busts a big one. His median yards per carry is high, but his mean is low.

but last year a lot of this was erased, especially after South Carolina

yet Scott still dominated the carries, even when he was not nearly as productive as he was earlier (while KW was more productive in those games)

quote:

I'm not sure how KW and Hatch relate at all,

you can talk shite about KW without any worry of rebuttal for the most part

you mention anything negative about hatch, and the pitchforks come out

it's an ongoing observation with a poignant example earlier today

quote:

Why bash a guy who has limited ability, wasn't supposed to start anyway, and is now leaving after giving his all to the program?

some people were saying he was an upper-half SEC QB last year and some got pissed when people brought up the fact that he didn't have SEC talent. it's gotten ridiculous

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476119 posts
Posted on 1/15/09 at 2:50 pm to
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I just don't recall in 2005 and 2006 this board demanding Flynn.

there were tons in 2006
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