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re: SEC likely to adopt 9 game conference schedule...
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:52 pm to TheBear60
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:52 pm to TheBear60
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you think ESPN & the SEC is going to give up LSU vs. Alabama
Too much $$$ to be made, especially while Saban and Kelly are coaches, but if I had to guess, it would be Texas, aTm, and Arky. Outside shot at Ole Miss switched for Texas. I don't think it will be Auburn. For as many moments as that rivalry has delivered, it just doesn't feel the same anymore.
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:54 pm to GeauxVU
I would prefer:
Ole Piss
Florida
Arky...already a shiny trophy involved & that game should have never been moved away from Black Friday.
Ole Piss
Florida
Arky...already a shiny trophy involved & that game should have never been moved away from Black Friday.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:15 pm to atltiger6487
I think anymore than 4 is a waste.Bama already gets in the playoffs while finishing 3rd in the SEC. So for the time being 4 is fine. Now when the conferences expand I really don’t know what you would do because your going to have a lot of great teams within conferences that don’t even play each other during the regular season. At that point they would prolly have to figure out something
Posted on 8/20/22 at 10:43 pm to GeauxVU
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What I’m saying is that it doesn’t make sense to arbitrarily match the top tier programs with lower tier programs for the sake of making their schedule a little easier like a previous poster suggested (i.e. not putting all “top 6 teams” against each other), because it waters down half of the CONFERENCE schedule.
No matter how you slice it, the Top 8 teams in the conference play 50% of the conference games. If they only play each other, half the conference games are watered down because they include no top teams. If they go to a 2-1 setup, then 2/3 of the games will have at least one top team. The question is a matter of balancing premium matchups with quantity of inventory. The 2-1 setup does the best job of balancing marquee games, inventory and competitive fairness.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:24 pm to GeauxVU
I still disagree with you. And I do speak some Italian. All of my Grandparents/Great Grandparents were from Sicily/Southern Italy. Do You understand now?
You need to balance out the schedules. Alabama does not need to have Auburn/TENN along with UGA or Florida.
Texas will get OU and Texas A&M, they do not also need to have for example LSU.
UGA will get Florida/Auburn, they don't also need TENN or Alabama, etc.
Clearer where I stand?
You need to balance out the schedules. Alabama does not need to have Auburn/TENN along with UGA or Florida.
Texas will get OU and Texas A&M, they do not also need to have for example LSU.
UGA will get Florida/Auburn, they don't also need TENN or Alabama, etc.
Clearer where I stand?
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:28 pm to LSUSkip
Interesting take.
Easy to say Texas - Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas.
LSU - Florida, Texas A&M, Ole Miss.
LSU vs. Texas?
That would be an annual blockbuster. But highly unlikely.
The betting odds favor "Texas - Oklahoma, Texas A&M, & Arkansas."
Easy to say Texas - Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas.
LSU - Florida, Texas A&M, Ole Miss.
LSU vs. Texas?
That would be an annual blockbuster. But highly unlikely.
The betting odds favor "Texas - Oklahoma, Texas A&M, & Arkansas."
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:29 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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No matter how you slice it, the Top 8 teams in the conference play 50% of the conference games. If they only play each other, half the conference games are watered down because they include no top teams. If they go to a 2-1 setup, then 2/3 of the games will have at least one top team. The question is a matter of balancing premium matchups with quantity of inventory. The 2-1 setup does the best job of balancing marquee games, inventory and competitive fairness.
100% agree with you.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:32 pm to JKChesterton
JKC what are your permanent opponents?
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:39 pm to G&P
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JKC what are your permanent opponents?
Well if the League office scheduling philosophy is to maintain tier 1 and tier 2 rivalries for all teams. Then the closest rival games LSU has in my view are Texas A&M and Ole Miss.
So those 2 games I think will be 2 of LSU's 3 games. The 3rd game is the more difficult one. It will not be Auburn or Alabama, so that leaves Miss. State, Arkansas, and Florida who are the other 3 teams that LSU plays currently every year. I can see Miss. State being assigned to Alabama for their 3rd game with their top 2 rival games (Auburn and TENN).
So that leaves Arkansas and Florida. Personally, I would like it to be Florida but I get the idea that Florida will get obviously UGA and probably TENN (who will have Alabama along with Vandy as TENN will want to play in Nashville)
Long winded answer but my choice is Ole Miss, Texas A&M and Florida but I think it will be Ole Miss, Texas A&M and Arkansas.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 12:14 am to marcnbc
I want Florida. I love to hate them more than any other team.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 3:15 am to GeauxVU
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It’s saying ESPN isn’t going to bifurcate the SEC into “football” and “non football” teams, thereby making half of the conference games less relevant…
It doesn’t make half of the conference games less relevant.
Under the current 8 game schedule you have, in an average year:
- Top 6 vs. top 6: 9 games
- Top 6 vs. bottom 8: 30 games
- Bottom 8 vs. bottom 8: 17 games
- Total: 56 games
Under a 3+6 schedule in the new 16-team conference where each bottom 8 team had two bottom 8 permanent opponents and each top 8 team had two top 8 permanent opponents, you would have:
- Top 8 vs. top 8: 18 games
- Top 8 vs. bottom 8: 36 games
- Bottom 8 vs. bottom 8: 18 games
- Total: 72 games
So ESPN gets twice as many top tier matchups, 6 more top vs. bottom tier matchups, and 1 more bottom tier matchup.
What about compared to a system with no permanent opponents? Under a 9 game schedule with no permanent opponents you would have:
Top 8 vs. top 8: 17 games
Top 8 vs. bottom 8: 38 games
Bottom 8 vs. bottom 8: 17 games
Total: 72 games
I guarantee ESPN makes more from the extra top-tier matchup than they lose from the extra lower-tier matchup. Regardless it doesn’t make much difference, which is why it wouldn’t surprise me if the conference throws that bone to the bottom 8 schools. What really matters in terms of the TV deal is A) adding Texas/OU and B) going to a 9 game schedule.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 3:33 am to lostinbr
With only 4 teams in the playoffs, I think keeping more cupcake teams on our schedule is a good idea. As it improves the overall record of our league and makes everybody look better.
If the playoffs expand, then we can play more conference games.
If the playoffs expand, then we can play more conference games.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 6:48 am to LSUTIGERS8181
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Probably A&M, Ole Miss, Florida/Arkansas
Change it to Florida or Alabama if LSU keeps Ole Miss. Ole Miss and Arkansas are in the bottom half of the conference in terms of revenue, prestige. Ross Dellenger reported several months ago that teams in the top half would play two top-half teams and one bottom-half team every year.
So if LSU keeps Ole Miss, it won’t keep Arkansas.
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 6:52 am
Posted on 8/21/22 at 7:14 am to marcnbc
The Big 10 landing a 7 billion/7 year deal with Fox, NBC, & CBS forced Stanky’s hand in this.
SEC needs something to renegotiate with.
SEC needs something to renegotiate with.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 7:28 am to marcnbc
And insures collegiate football players reap huge income from lucrative NIL contracts. Which insures taxpayers will subsidize players who slip from amateur status to professional status. Which insures the NCAA is the NFL's bitch.
Collegiate Football has now gone professional. Gone are the days when athletes took advantage of athletic scholarships to get a quality education at a great university.
Okay so I wanna know. When will university NCAA Division 1 football programs appoint contract negotiators to line up lucrative NIL contracts with corporations so they can then use the contracts to lure talent to their programs?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Collegiate Football has now gone professional. Gone are the days when athletes took advantage of athletic scholarships to get a quality education at a great university.
Okay so I wanna know. When will university NCAA Division 1 football programs appoint contract negotiators to line up lucrative NIL contracts with corporations so they can then use the contracts to lure talent to their programs?
Inquiring minds want to know.
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 7:36 am
Posted on 8/21/22 at 7:28 am to GeauxVU
If it is an in state cupcake, that is fine.
It's a way for LSU to really help out other schools athletic departments.
My presence
9 conference games
1-2 in state schools
1-2 p5 opponents.
It's a way for LSU to really help out other schools athletic departments.
My presence
9 conference games
1-2 in state schools
1-2 p5 opponents.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 8:10 am to VA LSU fan
If we get 8&$4 as one of our games, the ESPN/SEC is going to want them to play Texas on Thanksgiving night.
Why not try Tulane as the last game annually?
LSU wins 9 out of 10.
We get a pass from selection committee re it being a G5 game because toolame is an instate rival.
With their present state of their sorry program, they would jump at a 4 or 5 to 1 series, with their game being played in the Dome
Finally, it will make the over 50 crowd happy.
Why not try Tulane as the last game annually?
LSU wins 9 out of 10.
We get a pass from selection committee re it being a G5 game because toolame is an instate rival.
With their present state of their sorry program, they would jump at a 4 or 5 to 1 series, with their game being played in the Dome
Finally, it will make the over 50 crowd happy.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 8:32 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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I’d prefer an SEC-only schedule
I’m down. Right now, with an 8 game SEC schedule, an early season conference loss to a dominant division rival or a 2nd conference loss before mid-October pretty much kills any chance of getting to Atlanta. A 12 game SEC schedule keeps the season interesting for more programs much later into the season.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 8:36 am to marcnbc
Gumps will have Vandy, for sure along with Auburn and Tennessee. No way Saban gets Georgia, Florida. Texas, Oklahoma, Texas aTm or LSU.
Posted on 8/21/22 at 9:32 am to Domeskeller
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Change it to Florida or Alabama if LSU keeps Ole Miss. Ole Miss and Arkansas are in the bottom half of the conference in terms of revenue, prestige. Ross Dellenger reported several months ago that teams in the top half would play two top-half teams and one bottom-half team every year.
So if LSU keeps Ole Miss, it won’t keep Arkansas.
Then it will be Florida. Alabama is going to have Auburn and Tennessee, their top 2 historical rival games.
The question with Florida is who would they rather have, if they have UGA as their historic rival. Do they keep Tennessee as their 2nd rival game or LSU as that game.
Tennessee will likely have Bama and Vandy to Florida is a possibility.
If for example OU has Mizzou along with Texas (tier 1 rival game), and lets assume Tennessee gets OU as their 2nd big game, then I can see Florida and LSU being matched.
But 2 teams you can in my view forget are Bama and Auburn.
Bama: Auburn/TENN
Auburn: Bama/UGA
LSU will not be the third game for those 2 teams.
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