re: SEC ESPN host Peter Burns makes the case for retaining Matt McMahon at LSU

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He’s in the tournament in year one

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This.

NC State was 12-19 (5-15) last season. Wade "underachieved" and has them at 20-13 (10-8) in the NCAA Tournament.

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Argue against Wade being the guy everyone here believes him to be? Reasonable.

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This.

The hyperbole about Wade, in both directions, is stupid. He's a very good coach. You don't coach for 12 years, never have a losing season, and reach the NCAA Tournament 8x (would have been 9) without being a good coach. This was the 4th program he's taken over coming off a losing season (UTC, LSU, McNeese, NC State) and immediately improved the record the next year by several wins. But he's also not in the upper echelon of coaches in the game right now.

That said, he is the most known commodity on the market LSU could reasonably hire. Golden, Hurley, Oats, Self, Painter, etc, etc, aren't leaving their successful programs to come coach LSU. Those types of moves just don't happen in basketball often. On the flip side, it is entirely possible a guy sitting at a mid-major school right now is destined to be the next great coach and someone is going to get him. But there is NO guarantee that is the case.

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Burns wanted LSU to hire Drink for the football coach role, fyi

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It's amazing how people still believe this.

Moscona asked Burns to make a case for Drinkwitz because, at the time, Moscona claimed Drinkwitz was the backup plan if Kiffin said no.

That said, we shouldn't run it back with McMahon. The injury argument only holds weight if you believe he would've taken these teams to the NCAA Tournament when healthy.

Baseball bros are a big part of it too Madking.

If he only knew right? You’re not a fan period, not even a McMahon fan. You just hate the basketball fans.

If Wade wants to come the boosters will pay. If he doesn't then they may not be as motivated to take a risk on another mid major coach. That being said this whole Reed thing is hilarious. LSU lost 11 SEC games by an avg of 5.8 pts. To act like DJ and Reed wouldn't have helped overcome some of those is ridiculous. Like I've said, I understand the side of wanting Mcmahon fired but you don't have to make up s**t to express it. You didn't need Shaq. You just needed a healthy Reed and Thomas and they re in the tournament which was the goal for this year. I'm in favor of firing if they have a viable proven coach in place. If they keep Mcmahon another year and give him $10-$12 mil like the top teams in the SEC or like NCST then maybe he upgrades the talent level and they exceed expectations next year.If he doesn't then you will probably have more motivated boosters and you get your new coach next year.

Everyone outside of the program wants to keep him at LSU because they beat the piss out of us regularly, dumbass.

What are you, 5 years old??

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Everyone outside of the program wants to keep him at LSU because they beat the piss out of us regularly, dumbass.

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Exactly. When Rick Barnes sings McMahon’s praises, he honestly doesn’t believe that. He just enjoys the rent a win each season.

It amazes me how national media have to throw their two cents in on keeping a coach that finished dead last in his fourth year. How LSU fans need to bite the bullet and to just accept a fifth year of losing.

If this was Kentucky or Duke or North Carolina or his Alma Mater would he recommend the same? Burns sounds like the anti LSU trolls that come on this board to give horse sh#t advice!

They trying to keep LSU down. Bring back Will Wade and watch these people take a collective dump on themselves!

Geaux Tigers!

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. To act like DJ and Reed wouldn't have helped overcome some of those is ridiculous

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To act like they would is just as ridiculous. Im fricking sick of talking down on Jalen Reed. I don’t like talking bad about any player but he’s a glorified warm body. fricking Tamba was more useful. And while Thomas is a nice player and certainly looked great against the calamity jane portion of our schedule, his sec numbers were below average in the sec games he played.

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Give McMahon the most talented group of players in the nation and he’s still losing several games because he’s not putting guys in position to succeed. We rarely press, rarely play zone and when we do play zone you can see why we don’t play zone, we play a feeble man to man where our perimeter players get blown by at will and there’s rarely a last line of defense to bail them out.

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Offensively we are even worse. “Gee, if only Reed and Thomas were available!” We would still be running the signature lack of McMovement offense with one lazy high ball screen followed by 20 seconds of hot potato with lazy passes and…turnovers. All of the fricking turnovers. The turnovers that occur at such an alarming rate because the “system” is shite and gets eaten alive by any half witted opponent.

We should be looking to smother opponents, get stops and run outs. Thats how less talented/injury riddled teams stay competitive. But we’re the polar opposite. Who wants to run when you can keep it conservative and still lose to Mississippi State at home by 20?

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LSU makes the tournament with a healthy DJ and a healthy Ree

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I'd say you are the idiot.

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