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re: SEC ESPN host Peter Burns makes the case for retaining Matt McMahon at LSU

Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:24 am to
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:24 am to
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lol nice try but false on both statements


Actually reported to be true,

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LSU, along with South Carolina and Oklahoma have the lowest NIL budgets in the league and it’s no surprise to see this trio at the bottom of the standings.


LINK


Then again, the King of Contradiction strikes again. With your flawed logic, if there's no way of knowing what we spend, how can you use his record against him? You can't say one is false when you just said no one knows how much is being spent. You're a little bullshitter it's comical
Posted by king47
Member since Aug 2020
2184 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:25 am to
Alright thats it, Im convinced Peter Burns is a plant against lsu now
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1682 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:25 am to
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Do you have a job because that isn't not how you stay employed?


My job is process oriented, thanks for asking.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37745 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:27 am to
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Actually reported to be true, quote:LSU, along with South Carolina and Oklahoma have the lowest NIL budgets in the league and it’s no surprise to see this trio at the bottom of the standings. LINK Then again, the King of Contradiction strikes again. With your flawed logic, if there's no way of knowing what we spend, how can you use his record against him? You can't say one is false when you just said no one knows how much is being spent. You're a little bullshitter it's comical




That was all propaganda put out by Scotty to justify keeping him conveniently after we won 2/3 or 3/4 last year



There is no citing in that article etc.

This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 11:31 am
Posted by LSUbasketballfan
Member since Jan 2021
687 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:27 am to
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Without your 2 best players that ranked: 1st in Assists(Thomas) 1st in Assists per TO(Thomas) 11th in FG%(Thomas) 2nd in FG%(Reed) Reed averaged 9.5pts and 5.7 rebs in 18minutes, not even a half of play. It's really not that difficult. Everyone outside the program can see it.


Against the 292nd ranked non-conference strength of schedule.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35573 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:28 am to
Pretend for a moment this discussion isn't about LSU. Instead it's Ole Miss, or Alabama, or Texas, or anything other school.

Here, you have a media member saying it would be "lazy" to hire the coach with the best winning % in the modern era of the program, with the better option being keeping a coach with the lowest winning % in the program in more than HALF A CENTURY

Say that out loud and realize how unbelievably stupid that sounds. If the discussion were about Texas instead of LSU, LSU fans would unanimously be ridiculing Texas for such a dumb consideration.
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
637 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:31 am to
Nobody cares what that pretentious douche has to say.

Yeah let's bring McFailure back so he can go FIVE years in a row with no NCAA appearances...
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1682 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:32 am to
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That was all propaganda put out by Scotty conveniently after we won 2/3 or 3/4 last year



There is no citing in that article etc.



Ok so again, if "no one knows" one way or the other, why do you bring up his overall record as a talking point as if we are getting the money to win? If you know something I don't, please share.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70513 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:37 am to
But it’s not, and if that’s how you discern information you’re an idiot. There was a report 2 days ago that said the exact opposite but none of them are true which is the point. Again there’s an active lawsuit right now that proves it but continue your bs, you’ve never been right before because you don’t care to be
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 11:39 am
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1682 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:38 am to
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Here, you have a media member saying it would be "lazy" to hire the coach with the best winning % in the modern era of the program, with the better option being keeping a coach with the lowest winning % in the program in more than HALF A CENTURY

Say that out loud and realize how unbelievably stupid that sounds. If the discussion were about Texas instead of LSU, LSU fans would unanimously be ridiculing Texas for such a dumb consideration.


Will Wade hasn't proven he can win at a P5 without paying players. He exceeded expectations before NIL when he was paying players, and has underachieved this year when the playing field is level.

If we are going to fire McMahon, we need to completely blow this thing up and start over.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70513 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:40 am to
Case in point
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1682 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:41 am to
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But it’s not, and if that’s how you discern information you’re an idiot. There was a report 2 days ago that said the exact opposite but none of them are true which is the point. Again there’s an active lawsuit right now that proves it but continue your bs, you’ve never been right before because you don’t care to be


So what is your opinion based on if there's no accurate information? The lawsuit proves what? You can't use that either without knowing exact details in which you don't know. More word salad bullshite from you. This is exhausting. I'm going back to work.
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
3913 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:48 am to
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My job is process oriented


Apparently so is McMeh's
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37745 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:48 am to
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Ok so again, if "no one knows" one way or the other, why do you bring up his overall record as a talking point as if we are getting the money to win ? If you know something I don't, please share.





Well considering he had highly ranked HS classes the first 3 years I don’t think that indicates a MAJOR problem.



Additionally as I said. Sometimes you have to sing for your supper. Matt either cannot or will not. Whichever it is doesn’t matter the end result is the same.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 1:21 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162890 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:49 am to
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has underachieved this year


He’s in the tournament in year one

The man you’re defending can barely get on the NIT bubble

You cannot try to shite on Wade while propping up McMahon, it just doesn’t make sense

Argue against Wade being the guy everyone here believes him to be? Reasonable.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43109 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 11:57 am to
Anyone on this board could’ve coached this team to the same place in the SEC standings this season
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70513 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:01 pm to
I don’t use it and nobody knows. The lawsuit is akin to a freedom of information situation for the press. WAFB and some reporters are suing LSU to find out exactly how much players are being paid through NIL and revenue sharing or possibly other means. LSU will almost assuredly win the lawsuit because no other program has to disclose that information. What it proves is that no public NIL number for anybody is legitimate which most of us already knew.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162890 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:07 pm to
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If the NCAA counted moral wins what would Matt McMahon’s record at LSU be ?


Let’s do a rough “moral win” calculation using a simple rule most fans use:

Count losses by 5 points or fewer as “moral wins.”
(That’s a common cutoff in sports analytics for “close games.”)

1?? Actual LSU record under Matt McMahon
• 60–70 overall at LSU through the 2025–26 season. ?

2?? Estimate of close losses

Looking through the game logs across his LSU seasons, the Tigers have had roughly 15–18 losses by 5 points or fewer (examples include games like the 87-82 SEC Tournament loss to Kentucky and multiple SEC games decided late). ?

So using the midpoint:
• Close losses ˜ 16

3?? Convert those to “moral wins”

If we flip those:
• Actual record: 60–70
• Convert ~16 close losses ? wins

Moral-win adjusted record:

76–54


So in the “close losses count” universe, McMahon suddenly looks like:

?? a ~58–59% winning coach at LSU instead of a sub-.500 one.


So even in the mcmoral W world, he’s mediocre
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RIP Wayde
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by OpenlyGayDave
Denver
Member since May 2021
591 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:17 pm to
What in the ever living frick are you talking about?
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